Eating the Elements 2: Earth and Air

This episode of Mystical Musings continues the discussion from last episode and delves into the elements, particularly focusing on Earth and Air. Samael explains the symbolic meanings of each element, emphasizing that Earth represents space and primal needs, and Air is associated with thought. Practicing grounding by connecting with nature and engaging in physical activities is suggested as a remedy for feelings of fatigue and overwhelm. The discussion also touches on modern habits of consumption, the impact of technology on free thought, and the importance of expressing oneself authentically beyond words. The script closes with a song symbolizing the integration of these elemental insights.

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Transcript

Jennifer Taylor: [00:00:00] So, as you probably know, we ended our last episode with Samael beginning to talk about the elements, and there was so much richness in that that this became its own episode and actually ended up needing to space out some of the elements because so many different things came from the conversation, but we wanted to Start you off with a song that was recorded while we were still in this energy and as a part of all of this to, just bring you into a resonant place and prepare you for our conversation.

Tava Baird: we hope that you enjoy the continuation of our conversation and so we'll begin with the song and then it'll just continue right into where we left off last week. [00:01:00] [00:02:00] He just said, 

Tava Baird: in speaking of the elements, air is thought. Fire is change. Water is art. Earth is space. It's our [00:03:00] needs and tools. 

Jennifer Taylor: I think it's so interesting that Earth is space. 

Tava Baird: Yeah. 

Jennifer Taylor: it's like, seems almost like the opposite. It's like space would be air, you know, like Earth as space is. 

Tava Baird: I, I don't know.

Tava Baird: 

Tava Baird: he says, Earth is space, Earth is more than the soil, it is the need for the primal, the need for the physical, you constrain yourself in buildings and societal roles, move outside, expand your arms and breath, take in space as you stand grounded on the soil. Feel your roots move down, consume this energy when you are tired, sore, lost, wounded, move away from the others and back to the earth.

Tava Baird: It is where the [00:04:00] vibrations flow unimpeded. So he seems to be talking about. That in certain, yeah, he doesn't like walls, okay, boy do we get that, um, that at times we have a need to be a way to have space of our own, that when we've been inside buildings with other people for too long, we feel like we can't sort of expand and connect together.

Tava Baird: Yeah. That the thing we need to consume at that time is the energy of Earth. And so the remedy for being fatigued, sore, lost, or wounded is to move away from other people. And that the best way to do that is to head out to where we can connect with and draw in the [00:05:00] Earth's energy. So if I had been walking through that market in my mind, and it felt like there are too many people in here, and I'm overwhelmed, and da da da, that what we need to do in that case is The element of earth by putting ourselves into that space where we are connected to nature, but are able to disconnect from the day to day life of being indoors and in buildings and on schedules and surrounded by all the, he says, the niceties of society, where you can go out and be primal and in your body.

Tava Baird: And be an animal. Again. So that there's this need for us, he says, instead we watch boxes and you know what, that makes sense. You come home from a long day at work, you're completely, people say, do you want to do this? And you say, I don't have any energy. [00:06:00] And what do we do? We sit down on the, and we watch TV for two hours 

Jennifer Taylor: right?

Jennifer Taylor: And people will say it's my escape. it's like, needing to go into another space and kind of escape from the world or the stress of the day , but it's like eating the cake when you're looking for comfort, you know, it's that, trying to get it from the box as opposed to going outside and escaping and feeling that expansiveness and nature.

Tava Baird: We will watch an episode of people being outside in nature rather than walking outside in nature. It was so funny. I remember my husband, I would walk in and I would say, what are you watching? And he'd say, Oh, I'm watching people live streaming a game of. Magic the Gathering.

Tava Baird: or I'm watching a live stream of someone playing a video game and I'm like, why aren't you just playing the video game yourself? We've gotten very much into a culture in a lot of ways of watching other people do stuff and humans do [00:07:00] like to do that. Like some of the most popular videos online are people opening up the unboxing videos.

Tava Baird: Have you seen those? Where it's like, I got a new blender and they're literally opening up a blender out of a box and people online are watching them do it and getting this wonderful, vicarious thrill of the new blender, you know, And if you think about that, you're not getting a blender, but it.

Tava Baird: That thought is there. You're feeling the same excitement as though you were. Right? Which is a lot of what we're talking about today. Samiel points out, what are those who purchase called consumers? Listen to that. So if you think about it, he's talking about consuming or eating things energetically. We already use that term in terms of people purchasing things.

Tava Baird: They're consuming, they're [00:08:00] eating. The thing that they bought, they're eating. they're taking it into their home, into their space, into their consciousness. It's becoming part of their daily life. They ate it. Yeah. They're taking it, that new blender 

Jennifer Taylor: into their energy, you're 

Tava Baird: taking it in. And so he's trying to tell us that there are certain needs we have that we can, satisfy.

Jennifer Taylor: through other things so this need to not be overwhelmed, this need when we feel broken and kind of hemmed in and worn down by the demands of everyone around us is to go out into nature and consume it. Consume the connection with the earth and the unimpeded flow of the vibrations. of the space that we're designed to walk around on as [00:09:00] physical creatures rather than necessarily, I mean, God, I love severance, but rather than binge watching severance that night, maybe do that the next night, but that that fundamental first step in healing is, going out and commuting with the Earth Yeah, so I know he was saying, I will speak of elements later, maybe since we started with. Earth and I feel like the next, thing he spoke about, it's like that you can use the elements, you can sort of form them and consume them in different ways.

Jennifer Taylor: I know that's totally not the word to use. Yeah. Maybe that's kind of what, this sort of episode is, is the, yes, the discussion of the elements. 

Tava Baird: Because, yeah, you're right. The beginning said you may eat the elements. He's talking about consuming these concepts, consuming this energy, vibrational energies, these connections that are often what our heart is really looking for.

Tava Baird: Right. And he says, and it [00:10:00] is all right to manipulate reality in order to heal yourself. Well, we just did that with the experiment. I realized what I needed to heal by walking through that market. I manipulated reality there for a little while. I put myself in what some people would say is an alternate reality, right?

Tava Baird: I let my mind go to that place and experimented with how it felt. and our first thing was apprehension. Oh no, if I think about eating the whole cake, won't I then, you know, drive to Harris Teeter afterwards and consume a whole cake? And so he's saying, you're going to need guides.

Tava Baird: You're going to need people to look out for you because a lot of times we were inexperienced in this area, but we put me in a safe place, a place I can't possibly go to in real life and do this. And I took him with me and I was able to see what parts of myself needed healing. That I needed to, reach out to people, that [00:11:00] there were things I was interested in I hadn't explored, that, I needed to spend time doing certain things by spending time in that little reality that was created with thought.

Jennifer Taylor: Which makes sense cause at one point when I was talking about using thought in the form of mental rehearsal for sports performance. Or focusing on something to actually create it and manifest it he said, there's different kinds of thought.

Jennifer Taylor: That I think what we got to experience last time was that it, what he was telling us was not to, just sit and imagine cake all the time you went on this journey, you created with your thoughts, with the intention of learning from it and having an experience and learning and having a guide.

Jennifer Taylor: with you, which I think is super important. And I know he had specifically said, take a guide, have someone with you. 

Tava Baird: Yes. 

Jennifer Taylor: that's a different kind of thought that is thought creating an environment [00:12:00] in which you can interact just as though it were material, and then learning from it, 

Jennifer Taylor: which is really fascinating, really different. And I just like once again, language, you know, we use the same word of thought, you know, thoughts create things. And once again, the word thought now, he's using that in these different contexts.

Jennifer Taylor: And we would say. You know, looking at it initially, it was like, Oh no, you don't want to put that much thought and focus. If thought creates things, are you creating, manifesting, more desire for the thing you don't want? . But the thought creating that environment and that opportunity to learn is really different.

Tava Baird: And what I learned is that I'm not as much in the grip of unbridled craving as I think I am. But now I'm so curious because when we were at that same market, the people next to us ordered a pizza and I like, it was, you know, Sbarro slices, bigger than your head.[00:13:00] 

Tava Baird: And it was funny, thought of pizza was nowhere in our brain before that. But we turned and looked at my friend, Kathy looked over there and she said, Oh God, now I want pizza. Right? We saw the pizza and now even though it had not been there a moment before, now we were all in on should we order a pizza?

Tava Baird: Right? Yeah. There was that, that impulse craving that started it. Marketers know so well, right? And it wasn't like we'd been jonesing for pizza for three days. We saw it, we wanted it. And, I'm now going, man, there's no pizza available in this house right now. When I get off the podcast, if I sit down, say, say my, uh, let's get a pizza and I open up pizza with the best toppings I can possibly eat in my brain and sit there, I wonder how many slices I will get into it before I suddenly realize what I actually need is something else.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, I think that's really [00:14:00] fascinating. The, you know, creating that. World and going back, you know, it reminds me I'm currently taking this class with Robert Moss on active dreaming. And I know you had referenced, before basically lucid dreaming where you, discover that you're awake when you're dreaming.

Jennifer Taylor: And that's how Sam, I always kind of referring to this, thought experiment, was, you know, being aware that you are in this environment in a dream kind of state. And yeah, It's interesting because, you know, he's always talking about that. Real things are happening in our dreams and in these journeys, and he encourages us to go back and revisit dreams and go back in with the knowledge that we have now and with questions and an action plan and it's, it's interesting, it's kind of like what you did almost, but it wasn't a dream that you went back into, like you went back to an experience that you had with the support of Samuel.

Jennifer Taylor: And walked through it and then [00:15:00] gained all of this insight. And now you also have the questions of like, if you did another one, like a thing with a pizza or whatever it is, you have that question of. What is it that I really want? And he talks a lot about that going back. like if we have a nightmare, especially he calls nightmares, broken dreams, and it's essentially something in it happened that was so intense that we had to get out without seeing it through to kind of the end 

Jennifer Taylor: And so you have this little fragment, this image. of what was happening. And when you're awake, you think, okay, how could I deal with it? What are the questions that I have? What would I want to find out? Like, why was that bear attacking me? You know, what was happening? and so you, create the questions of what do I want to find out?

Jennifer Taylor: Or when I go back in, if I'm being attacked by something, I want to learn more about it or all these different sorts of things. And then you could either do it in your sleep or in a journey like what you just did and go [00:16:00] back in and learn from that and it essentially heals that dream because in that lucid state where you know you're going into it, you can keep your awareness and then you can learn and you can interact with, the thing that frightened you. Or you can explore, and look around and ask questions.

Jennifer Taylor: Why? Why was I so afraid in this or what was really going on? Or you can manipulate it and bring a guide that's really protective and walk back into that dream with your, wolf guide and have your wolf protect and defend you so that you no longer have whatever the, horrible outcome was that made you call it a nightmare.

Jennifer Taylor: but I love the idea of the way you're using Past experiences and thoughts of things and then going into them as though they were a dream, going into them in that waking dream, shamanic kind of, meditative journey experience, . and learning from it. So, you know, we could do that [00:17:00] then with so many things in our life 

Jennifer Taylor: you know, because we'll recognize patterns. We're like, oh, why do I do this? Like, I do this all the time. And The idea that that could maybe be the framework for an experiential thought journey where we invite in our guides and we go into it with some questions 

Jennifer Taylor: What is really happening? What if I responded differently? And you could maybe go intoThat situation as though it were a dream and walk into it with, okay, I'm going to experiment with having maybe stood my ground or advocated for myself or, responded differently and see how it feels, see what happens as this new way of interacting. with things in a way of gaining this information I'm not sure that I've really heard of a method that's specifically using it in that way, but it occurs to me as something that would be really effective. 

Tava Baird: Yeah, it's, also pointing out how much of our [00:18:00] thoughts about ourselves and our thoughts of what we do are sort of habit.

Tava Baird: You know, like, I know we talked about atomic habits several episodes ago. But this idea that, I was going into that market over the weekend and my response to everything was some sort of habit. Or preconceived notion about myself. So it wasn't just, I saw something pretty, I went towards it, I wanted to bring it home with me.

Tava Baird: It was, that's for me, this isn't for me. Oh my gosh, how am I feeling? Oh, what is my relationship to people? Oh, what are, am I being challenged enough? Am I learning enough? what kind of guilt am I carrying in here? What kind of a people pleaser am I, you know, like what relationships that I already have are there.

Tava Baird: And there's so much buried in the simple active, but we perceive it as I'm just going in and I'm doing this thing, you know, I'm just having a slice of cake. But, there's a whole underlying [00:19:00] energetic series of habits and choices and perceptions going on. You said something a few weeks ago and I'm trying to remember.

Tava Baird: You said something about being able to, I think it was actually food related, you were talking about. I think it was habits that didn't serve people in the short term versus the long term where it was eating the cake versus, like having the vegetables.

Tava Baird: And what if you could expand your view to See that the effects of what you wanted actually were much more far reaching than the immediate. Would it alter how you related to the choices that were in front of you? 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. what we associate pleasure with and what we associate pain with and making new connections and and analyzing whether what we associate with pleasure, really brings pleasure. or if it ends up in pain, then attaching the idea of pain to that thing instead of the pleasure and I tell you that has has really made a dramatic difference in the way that I, [00:20:00] relate to so many different aspects of my life. especially food. you know, 

Jennifer Taylor: Well, and Sam Isle keeps coming up with hunger, and talking about that in so many different ways yeah, hunger and consuming has been really a theme over the last couple.

Jennifer Taylor: podcast, which is really interesting in, you know, coming from him. Um,

Tava Baird: I think it's really funny. I just, when you were talking about coming from him, you said it's funny coming from him. My, my kind of brain thought, do angels eat? And he, I heard him laugh and he said, wine is good. I get the feeling they don't eat the same way we do, but apparently wine is good.

Tava Baird: Um, yeah. 

Tava Baird: I do have some thoughts, Jen, while you were thinking Sam, I all started talking about.

Tava Baird: Air and fire. So would you like to hear a little on air and then we can 

Jennifer Taylor: see if we agree with the 

Tava Baird: seraphim or not. Um, so he had said, air is thought. Your [00:21:00] people have embraced the machine In many ways it helps, but in doing so, often your thoughts are not challenged, allowed to roam There is a pressure to favor or not favor certain things.

Tava Baird: ideas become misplaced within the hierarchy. Boy, ain't that the truth. Like you get really structured and then it's, well, if my boss's boss's boss doesn't think it's a good idea, it's never going to come onto the table. a lot of times when we get into these routines and Part of our thoughts are being taken away by our social hierarchy and some of our ideas get lost in it.

Tava Baird: And then other ideas, it's just, oh, I have a machine that will do that for me. 

Jennifer Taylor: I 

Tava Baird: was really, I was really shocked when I was a middle school teacher at the number of kids who could no longer read an analog clock. Because they just had their phones and it told them the time on there we're always using [00:22:00] calculators instead of doing the math and in a lot of ways it really helps.

Tava Baird: But sometimes we get to a point where our brains aren't really challenged a lot during the day. 

Jennifer Taylor: Well, and I think what immediately came to mind when he was saying that too or when you were reading that was that that we're getting experience and exposure to that's coming from any kind of device, you know, our phone, things we're looking up, their computers, all the social media, everything is tied in.

Jennifer Taylor: it's so obvious these days that our phones, somehow the devices are all listening because you'll have a conversation about something, not Google anything. And the next thing you know, there's an ad for it on, Facebook feed or something. I've heard a lot of things about the fact thatwe are not being challenged because we are being fed like all of the algorithms for everything that we use.

Jennifer Taylor: Every Google search we do, every product that we buy, all the websites, the things that we comment on, the things that we say, it's all being fed into [00:23:00] this machine to give us more of what they already know we know andnot to challenge us. And so it was saying that there's less and less free,Exchange of ideas because if somebody is expressing something that we're not going to like, chances are it's not going to show up in our feed.

Jennifer Taylor: It's not going to be at the top of the thing that we see. we're not likely to hear that input from the other people that, if we were all just walking around the town and all talking to each other you might hear these things that are contrary to your way of thinking about it, and we're getting more and more tunnel vision like, blinders on with the amount of information that a lot of people are getting if they're not actively seeking out new avenues and new perspectives.

Tava Baird: Exactly. And it becomes so easy to simply stay in your comfortable little zone that it becomes an echo chamber we have to remember, media is trying to sell us stuff. Right. It's trying to sell us stuff. It is powered [00:24:00] by advertising, except for this podcast, zero advertising.

Tava Baird: hey Advertisers if somebody wants to sponsor us.... just kidding. We're open to that, 

Jennifer Taylor: but, we're 

Tava Baird: open to that, butonly in a way where we wouldn't be stifled saying that we don't like our advertiser, if you think about that, most media is powered by advertising, right?

Tava Baird: if you've ever worked in a retail or, um, advertisers want to keep you happy and they're trying to keep you focused on it. And so, exactly what Jen said, you're not running across challenges and, soon people start to basically believe their own height.

Tava Baird: We see that. all over right now, where it doesn't really matter what other people think. If somebody hears something they don't like, they just start shouting louder over the top of it. And we get to a point where people have completely forgotten how to argue or disagree with grace, and are instead simply trying to say something that will get them a social media clip.

Tava Baird: And then [00:25:00] that's what we are consuming or eating. So those are the thoughts that we're getting fed to us. So Samuel continues and he says in the air at these times when your mind feels dull When life is repetitive, when no one listens, open your mouth and let the wind blow in to steal your words.

Tava Baird: Stand in the storm, sing to the gale, spin like a dervish and scream on the sand in the nighttime ocean breeze. I like that dervish, you're just spinning and screaming, right? Run fast enough that you shift your hips to take flight. And Sing, sing, sing at the top of your lungs, expand your capacity.

Tava Baird: Inhale, seek inspiration in the fleeting [00:26:00] thought. Let the electricity of the skies strike your kit and teach you. Read, discuss, change your seat. Open the window. Be stripped clean of the daily rotes that bind. Yell into the canyon and rejoice in the echo of your own voice. When the divine whisper, respond as if it is a roar.

Tava Baird: So that is Air. 

Jennifer Taylor: That's fantastic. Will you read that one more time? 

Tava Baird: Sure, there is thought. Your people have embraced the machine. In many ways, it helped But in doing so, often your thoughts are not challenged, allowed to roam. [00:27:00] There is a pressure to favor or not favor certain things. Ideas become misplaced within the hierarchy.

Tava Baird: Meet the air at these times, when your mind feels dull, when life is repetitive, when no one listens. Open your mouth and let the wind flow in to feel your word. Stand in the storm, sing to the gale. Spin like a dervish and scream on the sand in the nighttime ocean breeze. Run fast enough that you shift your hip to take flight.

Tava Baird: And sing, sing, sing at the top of your lungs. Expand your capacity. Inhale. Seek inspiration in the fleeting thought. Let the electricity of the skies strike your sight and teach you. [00:28:00] Read. Discuss. Change your seat. Open the window. Be stripped clean of the daily ropes that bind. Yell into the canyon and rejoice in the echo of your own voice.

Tava Baird: When the divine whispers, respond as if it is a roar. 

Jennifer Taylor: I love that so much. Therewas something that occurred to me. During that, when we were talking about, air being thought and allowing the air to come in and was it steal your voice, was it steal yourself or steal as in take away?

Tava Baird: Take away. Let the wind flow in and steal your words The voice is still there. And steal your words. He is talking about moving beyond definitions and the constraints of words.this [00:29:00] reminds me of something that happened earlier this week and that Vince and I've actually been noticing ever since. I often misplace a word and I'll simply say a word that sounds sort of like it and then careful listeners will go, what did you just say?

Tava Baird: And I've come to realize recently. That to me, the cadence and music of speech is more important than the exact definition. That I take a lot of meaning from tone and rhythm I often say when people point that out, you know what I meant. They always do, right? I did this the other night and I said something about this to Vince.

Tava Baird: I've started to understand that. I will sometimes in the flow of speaking, I don't have the exact right word. I will put in a word that allows the flow to continue. [00:30:00] He was talking about something similar to that, that happens, in football He said there used to be a way of calling plays where the quarterback would go out and say like, blue 92.

Tava Baird: and a bunch of different things. You've all heard them do that during football games. And red might mean this is an active play that we are going to follow. And blue meant, this is inactive. So that if the other team heard them, they didn't know which was the actual play they were going to run.

Tava Baird: But Over time, that's been replaced with quarterbacks saying different things. But, a lot of the football players learned to move with the rhythm and cadence of how that particular quarterback called the plays. And when they stopped calling the plays the old way they started finding that now, the defensive linemen and everybody were like a step behind where they used to be [00:31:00] mentally and emotionally.

Tava Baird: And so now the quarterbacks still do it a lot of times, even though it doesn't necessarily mean anything because it helps topull the team's energy together and get them in step with each other before a play is made. And he said, you actually had replacement quarterbacks who would try to come in. because they didn't use the same cadence and rhythm with which the regular quarterback called things, they would find that their starting plays weren't as successful.

Tava Baird: So the backup quarterback started learning to mimic the main quarterback in terms of how they would go, Oh, 42 on the right, you know, whatever it was that they did. So because it's unified the team and even though those words don't actually have any material content anymore, teams have [00:32:00] found them necessary as a way of executing what they're doing.

Tava Baird: And I found that Fascinating. I also started to think back to like, I was a big Duran Duran fan in the 80s, right? I was thinking about, there's a wonderful song called New Moon on Monday. It's a great song. Can I tell you what it's about? No, because literally the opening lyrics to this song are, shake up the picture, the lizard mixture.

Tava Baird: What the heck is that? Okay, if you sit down and look at a lot of those songs. The lyrics make no sense to anybody but Simon LePon who wrote them probably. Shake up the picture, the lizard mixture, with a dance on the evening tide. Right? Think about that. Okay, I have no idea what that is, but I think it's a fantastic song opening.

Tava Baird: Think about the number of us that miss sing song lyrics. We miss hear them and we repeat them incorrectly for [00:33:00] years, but the cadence and the tone of the song are conveying the meaning to us so that a lot of those words and their particulars are completely lost. And I think that that was just something that I think is in here.

Tava Baird: The wind is stealing the words, it's stealing the Day to day content, but it's being replaced with this unbridled, um, unconstrained raw emotion of voice. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, I took a, a class, gosh, I don't know how many years ago, several, three years ago, maybe now, with, oh, Chloe Goodchild.

Jennifer Taylor: And she has this whole thing. And at the time it was on. sound and silence and the importance of silence. But one of her big things is. People learning the sound, learning their voice and [00:34:00] learning about themselves and doing all kinds of deep work by finding the sound, like what does that sound like?

Jennifer Taylor: And then she has all of these voice triads where it's a group of three people who listen, and one sings, one listens to each other and supports, and then one has another role, I'm trying to remember what they were called, it was like the loyal friend and The witness and the person who's singing and my mom has gotten really, really into it.

Jennifer Taylor: She did this same class with me and she has gotten super into this and now is in this like monthly like subscription thing where, they're, continuing this work every week and they have these voice triads that she goes to and it's been so transformative. And she said, they'll say 

Jennifer Taylor: what am I feeling? What am I experiencing? And then what does that sound like? And they're not using words. They're just vocalizing. What that sounds like. And it may be the [00:35:00] sound, they're experiencing grief or frustration or anger. what sounds does my body and my psyche and my everything need to make and then listening to that and getting a sense of what you're actually feeling.

Jennifer Taylor: And so much of it is also in finding your voice. What is your authentic voice sound like and really working on that and bringing that sound out from the depths of you? And it's really profound, deep work. And I find it so interesting what are you feeling and what does that sound like?

Jennifer Taylor: And the idea that what comes through is so much bigger and richer and more full and whole of a message. In whatever that sound is, regardless of the vowels or the consonants that might be used to shape it, or there may not hardly be any,it's a complete transmission of all of that that you could probably [00:36:00] spend, an hour trying to put into words, but just express in that moment.

Jennifer Taylor: So I love the idea of the. steel, like the, the air come in, or the wind come in, air come in. He says,

Tava Baird: let me find it. Open your mouth and let the wind flow in to steal your words. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, so like the wind coming in and stealing your words, but then fully expressing yourself with gusto without them. And I think that's, so potent . And then something else that occurred to me when, He was talking about, air and thought and the idea, what do we say when someone comes in with just, just completely fresh perspective?

Jennifer Taylor: oh, that is a breath of fresh air. Yes. and it totally is like just breathing in this freshness of this new perspective, this new idea, this new paradigm. You know, [00:37:00] just bring, breathing that in. and the idea that air correlates then with thought is, uh, is really fascinating.

Tava Baird: That different perspective. 

Jennifer Taylor: So this song that you're about to hear is actually something that was recorded 

Jennifer Taylor: about an hour and a half into our discussion that, as you know, has now become a four part episode. And At the time, I thought, okay, I'm going to be singing and bringing through what will be the intro song for the second episode. And what happened was part of the way through that, I became really aware that no, that's not what this is.

Jennifer Taylor: This is supposed to be placed later on in our discussion. And I was told it is a mixing and integrating of the elements. I hope that you enjoy this. And,here you go. e e e e e , [00:38:00] eeeee eeeaw [00:39:00] Everyone in this video is tired. They are tired [00:40:00] from the recording. Why? I'm sorry, they're too tired. Because, they're [00:41:00] [00:42:00] [00:43:00] [00:44:00] tired. 

Tava Baird: It was beautiful. 

Jennifer Taylor: I was like, whoa, this is some sort of vocal exercise. I'm like, we are all over the 

Tava Baird: place. 

Jennifer Taylor: Thank you for joining us in this episode.

Jennifer Taylor: We really hope that you continue this conversation with us next week as we talk about fire. And different kinds of communication and the [00:45:00] way that communication and energy comes through and is shaped through us. As well as some really interesting things that Sam Eyal has shared with us about coyote medicine.

Jennifer Taylor: So we look forward to connecting with you again next week and hope that you have a week full of blessings. .