An Altar to Yourself: Discovering Your Divinity, Part 1

In this episode of the Metaphysical Musings Podcast, Tava Baird and co-host Jen Taylor dive into an expansive discussion on tapping into one's own divinity. They revisit the topic of 'eating the elements' from a previous episode and explore how creation and interaction shape energetic spaces. They discuss the importance of song in creating spiritual environments, guided by insights from the Seraphim Samael. The conversation emphasizes the power of personal divinity and the profound impact individuals can have by embracing their divine nature. Topics include the manipulation of reality for self-healing, the dynamic nature of creation, and the role of intention and vibration in divine alchemy. The episode also touches on the concept of being one's own ancestors and the expansive reach of love and healing energies.

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An Altar to Yourself: Discovering Your Divinity (Part1)

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Jennifer Taylor: Hey everybody, Tava Baird here and welcome back to the Metaphysical Musings Podcast. I just wanted to let you know that the beginning of this podcast this week sounds a little bit bumpy and that we don't have our normal intro of us going. Hi Jen. Hi Tava. we just start talking and that's because we had already.

Tava Baird: Ben chatting with each other, following up on some things at the beginning of the podcast. And so the recording is a little funky, in that it came across in pieces. But, this week's topic, we are following up on the eating of the elements and moving into a really interesting discussion on.

Tava Baird: Finding your own divinity. And so this is gonna be part one of I don't know how many parts, but I just wanted to welcome you here. And don't be surprised when instead of saying hello, you simply hear me and Jen start speaking. Hope you guys are having a wonderful day and thanks for tuning [00:01:00] in.

Tava Baird: and the eating the elements turned into its own repart podcast. But then there was like another two pages of stuff that he said that I know we said we wanted to dive into. Yeah. 

Tava Baird: or we can start anew. Our lovely seraphim Has been talking about, he's been chatting with me quite a lot lately about, becoming a deity. 

Tava Baird: the becoming a deity was a neat topic and it's shifted my perspective this week. 

Jennifer Taylor: It's interesting because one of the things that I realized that he had started talking about in that I came across again when I was looking back to try and figure out the etiology of this whole power of story thing and how all of this came to be and how we were talking about it.

Jennifer Taylor: And something he said in that was [00:02:00] echoed in something he said in that section that we didn't get to yet. Okay. About how like when you create, So when I sing. It creates an actual environment. Yes. And then he was saying yes, but it also, but it doesn't stay the same.

Jennifer Taylor: It grows and merges and changes. And that was one of the things he was talking about. He said something about that in that section too. And so I thought that was, interesting. And so we can, I mean, just put all of these things out there and see what, see what happens, see what happens. See what he thinks is most interesting.

Jennifer Taylor: But I thought it was really interesting, but that it, that, that theme was coming back again, the idea of when we create something, it's not a static thing that's just, there it is. I created this space and it's out there, but I got the sense that it was like once other people [00:03:00] start interacting with it and engaging with it and visiting that place that.

Jennifer Taylor: Those interact, the interactions with that energetic thing that we've created now shape it and change it. Yes. And grow it. And that might be another potent part of our preparation for the fertile ground gathering too. Yes. Yes.

Jennifer Taylor: Here's what he said during eating the elements. All right. I have

Jennifer Taylor: something. Yes, you may eat the elements. Um, shaah. and it is all right to manipulate reality in order to heal yourself. So much of what is material may be replaced with this energetic counterpart.

Jennifer Taylor: Boy, I did not remember

Jennifer Taylor: this [00:04:00] part because you said, you know, when you hunger, you may ask, is it truly the needs of the body or the soul? You have consumed enough with your eyes and ears and tongue and nose and skin in this lifetime to recreate that energy yourself, to be its genesis, to be precise. You yourself are generating nothing.

Jennifer Taylor: The energy is already there in the flow. manipulated into a new purpose. A new form such as an artist moves the paint from a bottle to canvas or unspool the thread to weave it into cloth. During this time, you feel you can control it, but at times the paint will drip.

Jennifer Taylor: Or the thread may tangle be open to these new paths that you perceive as flaws. They are doorways into possibility sent from the flow of the divine. And when you have, uh, quote [00:05:00] unquote finished your art, know that it is not finished, for others will view it and add their own energy and perceptions that may evoke longing or irritation or joy, warmth or a cooling, sensation, desire or repulsion.

Jennifer Taylor: And in the mixing of what you molded with the energy of others, your energetic creation becomes more fully a thing. Now this is the part where you started singing and he started reacting to it.

Jennifer Taylor: And how do we direct the, this flow with thoughts, Thoughts are tools. Just as you use a hammer and a nail. See her as she sings and moves the impulses, the divine thoughts being sent through mix with the singer's, energy and produce, movement and tones.

Jennifer Taylor: And those tones are now creating an entirely new space. But but then what is that? Space [00:06:00] mixes yet again with those who listen, creating , change, a reaction in the viewer and listener. To smile or to weep or to heal. And then that energy creates yet another space for the listener to inhabit and perhaps share.

Jennifer Taylor: Vibration and intention. Vibration and intention. Divine alchemy. This is the basis of what you call magic.

Jennifer Taylor: It's so interesting hearing it the second time, like hearing his words after we had processed so much other things. And then after time has passed. 'cause I remember listening and thinking, what is he talking about?

Jennifer Taylor: And now I'm going this makes perfect sense. Yes. Isn't it funny that way? 

Tava Baird: he's asking about singing, And then I was thinking maybe if we had some questions [00:07:00] then if you wanted to sing, I can see what he says in response to those questions.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, sure. Absolutely. 

Tava Baird: Alright. 

Tava Baird: He is already chit chatting and saying, he said, yes, yes. Sing, now it is time to speak of hunger. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh, we're going back to hunger again. Which is interesting because I have what, so many times when you talked about like having this intense hunger, this intense craving for, for food that you just couldn't quench.

Jennifer Taylor: Yes. I was like, I, I didn't have that, that much of a personal resonance with that. And in the last several days, I, I thought I know what she's talking about. I am consumed with hunger and I realize it's not an, you know, it's not a physical. Right hunger that I need. But I [00:08:00] was like, this is so odd because all the time that you were talking about it, and I was like, I don't really so much have that in that way most of the time.

Jennifer Taylor: And then I was like, well, now that's coming up. Okay, so it's time to sing. I will s is there younger and Divinity? Yes. Um, is there any sort of thing that Sam would like me to use as my focus for the singing or just do what I usually do? 

Tava Baird: Do what you usually do. 

Jennifer Taylor: Okay. All right. I will switch mics and we'll make sure everything is set up.

Jennifer Taylor: I'll, 

Tava Baird: I'll be the polite one please. 

Jennifer Taylor: It's like enough yapping just sing. 

Tava Baird: And he just, he just said, I said, I said, uh, I'll be the polite one please. And he front of smiled and he went. kind of blew a kiss. Like that. Guess that's a pleaser. He is apologizing for being direct. 

Jennifer Taylor: I don't mind his [00:09:00] directness. 

Jennifer Taylor: eerie.[00:10:00] [00:11:00] [00:12:00] [00:13:00] [00:14:00] 

Tava Baird: Whew. Was really incredible. 

Tava Baird: Because when you stopped I was like, oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. And I could tell he started to wrap things up and kind of played a little bit at the end. And I think there's more to come through.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, and I mean if it would be helpful while it's on the same [00:15:00] train, I can keep singing. I tend to just like, I could go on and on, but I'm like, I can't, you know, this is a podcast, I dunno, not a concert. I don't know how long people wanna listen. 

Tava Baird: I didn't wanna exhaust you. Now I can either read you what he has and then we can go back to more song maybe when we have questions about the first part, because maybe that will help us drill down.

Tava Baird: But I got the feeling he was just gearing up and kind of getting started and there's a lot of stuff coming through. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. Maybe rather than interrupting that, because I think sometimes then we end up on another thing and then another thing. Yes. And we interrupt it. And I'm definitely still in that energy enough that I could step back into it.

Tava Baird: Let's do it. So I can just 

Jennifer Taylor: switch stuff and I'll just Oh, that would be incredible. I'll just keep going. 

Tava Baird: Would be incredible if I could get like another five minutes. I think this is, I think this is gonna be really interesting. 

Jennifer Taylor: Wow. Yeah. It, that was so interesting. I, I, I started to say, I woke up when I, I sort of [00:16:00] came to really.

Jennifer Taylor: I opened my eyes and I was facing a completely different part of the room than I thought I was. Like I was not at all where I thought I was in the room, so, alright, I will, I will tap right back into it. Then 

Tava Baird: he just said she spins like a dervish now, but slowly. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yes. Thankfully more slowly and I know that I can spin that way.

Jennifer Taylor: That's not, that gerage 

Tava Baird: is whirl around to disorient themselves so they can reach an alternate, sort of an alternate state of being. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, I, I, yeah, I think it, it creates this, what I would imagine is that it creates this sort of vortex and places them in an altered state of consciousness to be able to access these, these other states.

Tava Baird: I'll have to tell you guys about, or tell you about hedge riding when you come back, it reminds me of a story. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh, interesting. Alright, I will hedge witches. I will switch gears of gear again. 

Tava Baird: Alright, thank you so much. [00:17:00] Sure.

Jennifer Taylor: Okay.[00:18:00] [00:19:00] 

Jennifer Taylor: Ooh.[00:20:00] [00:21:00] [00:22:00] [00:23:00] [00:24:00] [00:25:00] [00:26:00] [00:27:00] 

Tava Baird: I would like to thank you for that. 

Jennifer Taylor: Absolutely. 

Tava Baird: Um, you know how we had [00:28:00] a lot to go? That was, it was, I was in a fully altered state while you were doing that. I'm gonna have to go back and listen to those songs again because holy cow. It's like a, a whole different door got swung open during that. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh boy.

Tava Baird: And. I feel like, you know, we were just sort of starting to get through, eating the elements and then there was so much more there. This is its own thing. would you like to hear it? 

Tava Baird: Luckily in campers, here we go. Hunger and divinity For what do you Hunger? The Body has limited needs to be a true deity is to join with divine flow, who subtly adjust the stream, not exert control. Then he says. [00:29:00] How long must I wait for my blessing from you? A why do you think the energy only goes one way?

Tava Baird: Direct the flow with thoughts or what you perceive as thought. What is it you crave? Connection. Remembering the joining with the whole. I think this is the first time I've ever heard Sanel talk about drive through windows. He's clearly been at one with me multiple times because he says he's the food at the little windows nourishing? .

Tava Baird: It was, it made with love, with directed healing. No feels soulless and sits heavy in the belly. You feel a dead thing after it is consumed dead 'cause the energy was not directed well at the taking of the life. The [00:30:00] Forming of the loaf. Your kitchen is a temple meant to feed the soul. Work your magics there. It should be a place of invoking, of blessing, of song honoring lives and time devoted to the food communing with vegetables and flowers.

Tava Baird: You have an got air quotes for this one. You have an inner kitchen as well, an inner hearth. Most do not tend, its fire and then the stones grow cold. let us speak of becoming hesia. Um, Hesia is, she's Greek goddess of the hearth. And that was where your first song ended. And I'll talk a little bit about hedge writing later, if I remember, for all those hedge witches out there.

Tava Baird: Then you started to sing again [00:31:00] and he went back to it. Hestia. let us invoke her and others like her. You say, what must I do in these troubled times, where must we gather? To what shall I look in the day march and raise your voice. But at night, immerse yourself in sacred darkness. Tend to your home fires and heat your cauldron, invoke, dda, father of creation, or the countless goddesses whose bellies reflect the iron.

Tava Baird: Heal yourself and move closer to the flame of remembering. Invite others for bread and the teas of medicinal plants. Keep the stories alive and sing to each other. This is important. Um, Shaah, this is important is time to stop [00:32:00] saying, I have no worth. I have no power for in your un incarnated form, you are just as much of a power as I am worthy of invocation, as mercurial, as the gods themselves, they do not apologize for their emotions and neither should you.

Tava Baird: When you are hungry beyond what the body needs, ask yourself, what sorts of goddess or God am I? What do I rule? What are my attributes? How far can my power reach? the great lie of this world is that your boundaries are close. They extend far and wide. Um, shaah far and wide have the audacity to expect that the [00:33:00] reach of your love is great.

If one man can drive a world to war, so can one woman gather it back, heal at night, and extend it to others in the day. I challenge everyone who hears my voice to create antar to themselves, to include themselves in what is God and what is nature Feed and Clothe yourself as you would feed and clothe one you would pray to.

Imagine yourself as boundless as an angel and straddle worlds.

Tava Baird: 

Jennifer Taylor: Wow.

Tava Baird: It was some song of yours, uh, Jen. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. Well, I was thinking he said something like that one of the last time, and it may be one of the last times I sang in the last podcast where we were [00:34:00] together about your body is a temple, I say or something that's like that you are the gods. I'll have to look and see what he had said because it was, the precursor to this.

Tava Baird: Yeah. Yes. I think I remember that. This you, lemme see if I can find it while we're talking. I find this really interesting that he's talking about people who have the audacity to believe that their reach is wide and that they are unstoppable. If we have that same audacity, but we turn that energy towards love and caring and shoring each other up and motivating each other.

Tava Baird: Who is there to say that we cannot have is wide reach. I mean, I tend to think I restrict my own thinking so often. I [00:35:00] think, you know, and I am. I'm so grateful for every time somebody reads a page of one of my books. I'm so grateful. Every time somebody looks at a painting of mine and likes it.

Tava Baird: I'm so grateful whenever somebody says they enjoyed a podcast. All of that is true. It doesn't mean that I can't also think my work is worthy of being spread across this globe beyond my. The village beyond my city, beyond my state. And if all of us who are trying to lead a path of a life that heals, have the audacity to think and dream, that our reach will be big, huge.

Tava Baird: That we are unstoppable if we can remember and convince ourselves that what Saint Mayel [00:36:00] says is true, that we are just as worthy, and our work is just as worthy of invocation and praise as these deities that we tend to look up to. What will stop us from changing the world? And the thing that I think struck me the most about this.

Tava Baird: It is him saying, how long must I wait for my blessing from you? I am always saying, you know, Samuel Mayel, watch over me, Samuel Mayel, talk to me, Samuel Mayel, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Because I've always imagined that he has this great power and ability and that I am this lesser creature, but he's telling me that it isn't true.

Tava Baird: That I am asking for him his blessing, but he's also waiting for mine, [00:37:00] and that he sees me as worthy of giving them. And that's just, you know, that's not the way I was raised. It's not the way society tells me to be. We talked, you know, we had that entire episode on Luli and Worth. You know, what if, what if.

Tava Baird: We can empower everyone to spread love irrationally wide. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. It is so beautiful. And I think one of the lines that really struck me too was that something about if one man can bring the world to war or break everything so can, one woman can call it back or can bring it back.

Jennifer Taylor: And I, I think sometimes, especially in the presence of seeing someone who knows the power that they have [00:38:00] and be and from that is able to cause so much destruction and chaos. You know, not that it's a good power, it's a power coming from anything that we, we want put out there, but it tends to put everyone in more of a helpless kind of state and more of a state of thinking that they don't, that we don't have power to, to counteract it or what can I do.

Jennifer Taylor: And I think listening to him say, we need to view ourselves as having that kind of power only the power would be so much greater because it would be tapped into the truth and the love, um, and the unity that is at the core and essence of everything. Like how much more powerful. And I, I love that, that concept of Yeah, expanding that.

Jennifer Taylor: I love that. I think you, you called it irrationally [00:39:00] wide, you know, it's like that expanding our power to be. So monumental and wow, that kind of healing, doing that kind of healing for the world and knowing that and owning that and multiple people, you know, lots of us doing that. The, the effect that that could have is just mind blowing.

Tava Baird: It was, uh, it's very funny. He, he interjected. I am not being specific to gender. Um, Shaah, I think because we said if one man can destroy the world and one woman should build it, men can build it too, right? Yes. And in a lot of cases, and however you 

Jennifer Taylor: identify, it doesn't, however you identify, it's a gendered thing.

Tava Baird: No, it is not a gendered thing. I think he tends to, he tends to sort of speak poetically. Right? Um, he also says it is easier to destroy than to build that I invoke you and I have faith. The world cries out [00:40:00] for your intervention. So. If instead, imagine we just reframe ourselves instead of being little, helpless, mortal beings that look to the gods and say, help us.

Tava Baird: Help us save us. If instead, we realize we are those beings, we are placed here with physical forms so that we can move things here so that we have voices here that some of these deities, they don't walk the same way here that we do, but we have physical forms. But if we recognize ourselves as timeless and as knowing that these physical forms are not forever, and use them as tools the best way that we can, what might we create?

Tava Baird: When to hear him say, I invoke you. Right? When is that ever happens? 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, I mean, [00:41:00] what a, what a powerful statement and thought and idea. The idea that, the angels as Seraphim has invoked us, us, all of us, all of the us as listening, all of those has invoked us to bring about rebuilding and change and healing.

Jennifer Taylor: I mean, it is, and you were talking about, how we are, these other forces exist and work here and, and interact with us all the time, and we are in physical physicalized bodies, but if we could be in these physicalized bodies and aware of our limitness, limitlessness, you know, to be in this physical world, but with the, the full remembering of everything that we are, the.

Jennifer Taylor: The power of that seems just [00:42:00] exponential. To have both a physicalized body and the remembering and tapping into the power of all that we are, that we know fully and remember fully and experience fully when we are outside of these bodies, when we shed these bodies. The combination of that feels really powerful 

Tava Baird: waiting.

Tava Baird: Another little something from him,

Tava Baird: he is talking about himself a little bit. He says, 'cause he was talking about we are all deities. [00:43:00] He said, I am a God of rebellion. I am a god of union. I marry those lauded and those demonized in my existence. We are all children together. And if you think about Samuel in the traditional stories he is, a seraphim.

Tava Baird: But becuase of his association with Lilith, There are those who saw him as a demonic presence, right? So you have sort of those, you have these two ideas, those angels that are praised and lauded as being perfect and pure and beautiful, and those that are demonized and told that you've done wrong.

Tava Baird: His being Is a rebellion against that idea that some of us belong in the yes, I am pure good category and some of us are bad or evil He takes from us that concept of "lowly sinner". It's saying that all of [00:44:00] these need to be together in one group. We are all children together. That that idea of separation, that you are one thing and I am something else and there is no way that we can ever form unity is what one of the things that he is in rebellion against, against that concept.

Tava Baird: So that if you've been told you are nothing, he does not accept that if you have been told you are everything, the expense of others, he does not accept that he is 

Tava Baird: a god of rebellion against division.

Tava Baird: He wants us to remember that we are not divided at our core, that we are all souls struggling towards a unification. We just don't remember it while we are on this earth.

Jennifer Taylor: It's interesting, I heard [00:45:00] someone talking about they were recounting again, something someone else had said, and I can't remember where this originally came from, but it was this concept that if we think of like the world as like a pie and that we start out when we're out at the crust, like kind of spread out all around the crust, we're thinking, I am Christian, I am.

Jennifer Taylor: Uh, Buddhist, I am Jewish, I'm whatever. It's like I am all these different individual things all spread out, but that, you know, our existence and who we are and the truth of all of it, and the truth of all of the religions and all of the different beliefs and thoughts is that as you move closer to the center and at the, center of the pie, you realize we are all, we're all actually one, we're all actually tapping into the same source.

Jennifer Taylor: the heart of all the religions, the heart of all the belief systems really in essence is that that unconditional love [00:46:00] and that once you reach the very center of it, you recognize that there is no separation. There's nothing. You know there, there's nothing separate.

Jennifer Taylor: And I thought that was an interesting thing of that the division as being entirely a matter of, perspective and false belief and false perspective.

Tava Baird: He is talking a little bit here. Yes. When you were just talking there, he laughed and said, you do not realize you have been both male and female and loved them both. You have lived as all races gone on many pilgrimages for many Gods The singers speaks true.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. I was looking back at what he had said the last time that we had gathered and I had, it was after the first song that I [00:47:00] had sung and um. He had said, where are your sacred spaces? The energies of earth birth, or the energies of earth birth many, but you too wield energies that can be utilized to shape and welcome.

Jennifer Taylor: If the temples and churches do not welcome your practice, go to where you feel the ancestors build ancestors. Build a path, build a circle. Welcome the birds and plants. Build an altar. You do not need walls. You need nothing. Save your voices, your presences, and your bodies. Combine the human arts and carve a place for the sacred to dwell, tended tend yourself.

Jennifer Taylor: Your body is a temple. I say your body is a vessel for the gods and you child are one of them. [00:48:00] And I think so it reminded me of that when he was talking. And then I was thinking, I'm not sure I had really like reading into that now with what he was talking about. You know, I wasn't necessarily thinking build an alter to myself as a goddess, I wasn't really interpreting some of those things.

Jennifer Taylor: And also I think the pointing out, save your voices, your presences and your bodies and, carving a place for the sacred to dwell the idea again, that being embodied doesn't have to be quite as limiting as we think of it as being. Mm-hmm. You know, it's like the, our bodies can be this incredible tool and vehicle to bring through that much more of spirit because we have the combination.

Jennifer Taylor: Of that, the awareness then of our full power and [00:49:00] our physicalized opportunity, our physicalized body, as an opportunity to manifest it here 

Tava Baird: a little more. As you're speaking, you are your own ancestors, and if you think about it, we've talked about this before. If we've been here multiple times, we may be, if we were here in an earlier time.

Tava Baird: So if you were asking your ancestors for help, some probably all of those ancestors are new. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. 

Tava Baird: Um. And he says, you are your own ancestors and I have loved you across space and time and will continue. You are my kin of the stars. Take us into your kitchen and be blessed. Set aside your fear and feast in the hall.

Jennifer Taylor: That's really beautiful. [00:50:00] Wow. it's interesting. One of the things that I've been with the idea of you are your own ancestors is kind of tying into, I know we've talked a lot about, um, probably more off camera than on, about the idea of skipping timelines and 

Tava Baird: Yes, 

Jennifer Taylor: having multiple people having told me that I skip timelines and that everyone does this, but that I tend to do it like.

Jennifer Taylor: Almost continuously, like all throughout the day, lots more than, uh, is apparently, I don't wanna use the word normal, um, 

Tava Baird: average maybe. Yeah, 

Jennifer Taylor: the average. Yeah.that's more typical, I guess. And then I've signed up for this quantum psychic surgery class and I've been listening and I've gotten some things from it that [00:51:00] of exercises.

Jennifer Taylor: And it's talking about, again, this quantum understanding, this idea of multiple layers of, and I may not be using the term quantum right in that sense, but this quantum physics, quantum mechanics kind of understanding that we exist in all of these different layers, like in this multi-layered universe, in this kind of multiverse.

Jennifer Taylor: And that everything is happening at once and. because time isn't linear and I know we've talked about that and that we can kind of skip into and access the US in all of these different realms and access the US that already knows the answer, the US that's already figured it out, or the US that has, that maybe where the disease that we're dealing with doesn't, it never manifested in that lifetime.

Jennifer Taylor: And it's like having all of [00:52:00] these parallel lifetimes where all the different possibilities of any sort of decision, any possible outcome, it's like all of them are have, are being played out and that we can tap into those for guidance and for healing and direction. And I know I've had several people say that or that, one person in particular that they saw.

Jennifer Taylor: Like my future self standing there with me and also like an ancient self that was also there. And it was like, I don't understand. I don't usually see like your present or your future self and your past and a past thing. All there together in the past was Samo kept saying ancient aint like older, older, older, older.

Jennifer Taylor: before in the time before man had names for Gods or something, I think is something that he said. And so when I think about it as [00:53:00] not a linear thing, but that all of these, all of these lifetimes are concurrent and they're all happening just in different levels of reality. We are our own ancestors in multiple concepts where it's not like they came before us and.

Jennifer Taylor: So we're, it's like, oh, we used to be them, but that we actually are living in and tapping into when we're tapping into our ancestors. It could be past, ancestors or future ancestors in our kind of linear thinking, right? But really it's like versions of ourselves that are existing in all of these other realms and can access each other.

Jennifer Taylor: I know there was a, I wanna say her name was Mira Kelly, who does like, past life regression and things like that, that talks about accessing [00:54:00] other versions of yourself within other timelines and when, and asking them like, if I have a question, ask the one that has the answers, or that has already manifested all of the things that you are trying to manifest to, to send you the information of.

Jennifer Taylor: The, the most efficient steps to get there. And then also when you figure something out, when something goes really well, consciously sending that to the selves, the versions of yourself that have not figured that out yet, that are, that might be struggling, that might have taken other paths that might be confused.

Jennifer Taylor: And so I think it's really interesting the idea of being a blessing to our, acting as an ancestor for the other, for other versions of ourselves that maybe haven't kind of figured out some of the things that we figured out and right. Being, being the one that they access. And then also tapping into the other versions [00:55:00] and the way that she does this, healing it.

Jennifer Taylor: This is a Cindy Dale, uh, course, and she talks about all of the working with the geometry of the different levels of existence, like the different. Oh, what is the word dimensions? Because people talk about like we're in the third dimension and there's the fifth dimension and all these different things that each dimension has its own kind of properties and what it's is kind of specialties almost and has a sacred geometry that's associated or a geometry that's associated and that you can use that geometry.

Jennifer Taylor: Um, like the first dimension is really like a line. It's like points with a line in between 'em kind of idea. And that you can use that then to connect to a di the dimension where what it is that you're wanting to heal or access and kind of switch [00:56:00] out that replace that blueprint, that building block with the building block.

Jennifer Taylor: That's the building block that is healthy or has the information. So I find I would love to, to see what Sam Miles's perspective is on that concept of our own ancestors or that interpretation of we are our own ancestors being more of a concurrent thing than the way that we think of it as, past and future.

Jennifer Taylor: and some past life that happened already and is over kind of thing versus all happening at once. 

Tava Baird: You want me to pop in for a minute and ask him if he has any comments on that? I'd love to. That would be, I'd love to find, find out. That would be 

Jennifer Taylor: awesome. Yeah. 

Tava Baird: He wants to know if you will sing what 

Jennifer Taylor: I will.

Jennifer Taylor: Absolutely. I.

Jennifer Taylor: I am, I am happy to sing an exchange for answers. 

Tava Baird: Just, just this episode [00:57:00] is going to be its own album. Like there's so much, you're like, I'm on the B side. Samuel, what else do you have to 

Jennifer Taylor: say? Yeah, I am more than happy to, uh, to sing for, uh, sing for answers. 

Tava Baird: Oh, this isn't, he said It helps me to manipulate the words in a way you can understand.

Jennifer Taylor: Oh, that's fascinating. Feeds 

Tava Baird: energy towards me. 

Jennifer Taylor: Really, you know, I was So maybe 

Tava Baird: that's one of the reasons that he's actually using the power of your song to be able to translate what he needs to say into something I can understand and write down. 

Jennifer Taylor: That's fascinating. 

Tava Baird: So he's like asking you for fuel to do Yeah.

Tava Baird: What he needs to do. 

Jennifer Taylor: Wow. Yeah, 

Tava Baird: he, he just said she builds a space where we can speak and then he [00:58:00] laughed and said, it is not selfishness. Um, Shaah,

Tava Baird: would you tell me if it was? He just goes, no, no, 

Jennifer Taylor: no. Oh, I love that. Yeah. So I will, I am honored. So now we, why the 

Tava Baird: song, why, one of the reasons why the singing is important, but I also enjoy it. You see? 

Jennifer Taylor: Well, I think, yeah, I, that is really, and it adds more understanding to the things he's been trying to tell us about the song and the story and these things.

Jennifer Taylor: Creating a platform on which people can. build anddo their work creating these environments that, that's how this is working. It's helping to create the platform environment, the space. 

Tava Baird: Thank you so much for joining us this week for the [00:59:00] podcast. We will continue this conversation next week as we continue with stepping into your divinity.