Balancing Your Energies: Senses, Breath and Bells (Part 2 of 2)

In this intriguing episode, join hosts Jennifer Taylor and Tava Baird as Samael guides them into the realm of energy balancing, grounding techniques, and the power of breath. Samael guides them through understanding how to tune our senses to better connect with the divine and maintain internal balance. Discover practical exercises to return to your body even in the most extreme of circumstances.  Learn more on the significance of the number eight and its connection to Metatron. Plus, find out why bells play a crucial role in clearing and defining energetic spaces. Whether you’re dealing with emotional overload or seeking spiritual clarity, this episode is packed with insights and tips to help you manage your energetic field more effectively. Tune in now for another exciting conversation! 

Resources: Beyond the Reiki Gateway podcast, Season 5, Episode 21 with Dr Sue Morter

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Transcript

Part 2 Samael tells us how to balance our energies

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Please note these are Ai generated and not always completely accurate - we correct  wihat we can.

Starts with Singing including singing the words, "ding dong ding dong"

Jennifer Taylor: All right, boy, that was weird. 

Tava Baird: Whoa. I feel like that's the bell calling me to the temple. There you 

Jennifer Taylor: go. Oh, that was so strange. The song I kept going, I, I really like, do, do I really have to go like, ding dong, like, is that, that I, I like, I kept fighting it and I was like, and then I just told myself, all right, I can always just edit this out.

If this is too weird, I can, we can just edit this out and I'll put something else, but it was so clear. I was like, fine. Okay. Okay. I will just ding dong. 

Tava Baird: As long as you don't ding dong the witch is dead. I'm good. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, that I did not [00:04:00] have to fight back. That did not come out. So, uh, 

Tava Baird: alright, here we go.

So the last thing that he said last week was, , allow me to advise but discuss this. First we did that and now he says, gather the healers together and level your energies. Hear me? So I think he's wanting to say, this isn't just for the two of us. This is for all of the different people who listen to the podcast because you know what?

You don't have to be at a Ren fair or a wedding to get overloaded with energies. You may be getting overloaded with energies in your workplace or sitting in your house. There's so many energies going on, especially if you're a person who is, walking down a path and trying to attune yourself to the divine.

Um, there's so many questions and so many things coming through.

He says, know these things. [00:05:00] Hibernation. It is the opposite. And balancing energy of the season you are in your senses are what ground you in your body. This is the time to use them. The eyes fill them with beauty and the minutiae of noticing.

I do not know how to spell minutia, and I really wish he hadn't chosen that word 'cause it gave me pause for a minute and slowed me down. The eyes, fill them with the beauty and the minutia of noticing. Spend time with a leaf with the moss on a tombstone in an old churchyard pebbles tossed into water.

Start and end your days observing the passing and rising of the stars the ears, song balancing songs sing. Chants, rounds, lullabies. [00:06:00] Sit near the rushing water. Listen for the breathing of the ones you love. Tune your breath to theirs when you embrace. The hearts will follow scent, fresh flowers, water laden breezes, the salt in the singer's cave.

Bake and place fragrant greens in your drink. Mix oils and anoint yourself. Learn to recognize you by their skin. Taste berries and honey and wine. Turn off the distractions and savor. Run your tongue over new texture and touch. Touch is everything. Understand your own topography and tend to it. Immerse yourself in water.[00:07:00]

Sand soil and air with as few barriers as possible. It is time to locate toys for yourself, things to occupy your fingers, posture. Move away from the world for a few hours, sleep and then utilize all the senses you have. Discover that there are more than just these five, and you will be ready to return to the world.

Um, shaah there is more protection comes next.

Jennifer Taylor: Wow, 

Tava Baird: we gotta give ourselves little spiritual spa days. People, you know, 

Jennifer Taylor: it, what really struck me in that is that it was like the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 grounding. Exercise that I used to do with [00:08:00] my older children, especially who had intense PTSD and they would completely dissociate and be in another, a place and not able to, not able to see who was actually around them and what was really happening and would have like lots of panic attacks and things like that.

And we would use this exercise and it was all about using your senses and completely tapping into exactly where you are now. And so I would say like, tell me five things that you can see right now. And so they would have to look around the room and be like, okay, um, a table shoes, a lamp, and it would force them to be in their body to use each of their senses one at a time they didn't have to do anything other than just sort of name what are the things?

And then it was like four things that you can touch. three things that you hear, [00:09:00] two things that you smell, one thing that you taste, and it was incredible by the time they had done that they were more coherent, they were more aware of like where they were and their bodies.

And the more I exaggerated those things where I would have 'em like, 'cause that's more the technical way you're supposed to do it. But the more I would have them, really hone in on each sense. the more potent it would be. like, what can you touch? And, they would say like, the couch.

And I would say , okay, how does it feel? What's the texture like, you know, and they'd be like a smooth or, you know, something feeling just smooth or rough and what's the temperature? Like, is it cool, is it warm? Is it hot? Oh 

Tava Baird: my 

Jennifer Taylor: gosh. And the deeper you would get into that, the more questions I could have them.

Especially with like the touch. It's like, you know, what do you see now? Touch it. And then like, really telling me what the sensations were in doing that, the, the better and the better and the [00:10:00] better it worked. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is just, this is like that exercise. And I've definitely, oh my gosh.

Witnessed it. It is the best place if you're ever with somebody who is having a panic attack. or majorly dissociating I've never had it not work. And I've been in the, I, I've been in hundreds of these situations that were really, really extreme and I've never had it not work. So I was like, oh, Sam, all, it's like, just like that.

Only he has like, oh my gosh. Even more. A beautiful ways of doing that. And, um, 

Tava Baird: well now I totally wanna, I was like, 

Jennifer Taylor: oh, this is that. I, this is awesome. 

Tava Baird: Now it's, it's funny because I'm a little dissociated from channeling, so now I'm like, okay, so the first thing I would do would be five things I can see, right?

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. So, and yeah. So I can, I'll walk you through it then. Yeah. So tell me five things. Okay. And then 

Tava Baird: people who are listening can do the same thing. Okay. Here we go. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. So tell me five things that you can [00:11:00] see. 

Tava Baird: Okay. I can see you on my computer screen. I can see the printer. I've been struggling to get working.

I can see my notebook, my glass of water, and my dog asleep on the bed in the next room. 

Jennifer Taylor: All right. So tell me four things that you touch. What are four different things you can touch right where you are? 

Tava Baird: the edge of the, um, big mouse pad that I have has sort of a rough texture to it.

The wooden floor under my feet is cool. Um, I can feel the fan moving the air in the room. I can feel my hair on my shoulders. 

Jennifer Taylor: Excellent. 

Tava Baird: And, uh, yeah, that's four right there, right? Yeah. 

Jennifer Taylor: And that's four things. And so, so in each thing, you know, you can go deeper with it, you know, it's like, how does it feel having, you know, the [00:12:00] hair on your shoulders?

Like what does that kind of feel like when you move your head, having, like, sensing your hair on your shoulders? 

Tava Baird: And since I have a sunburn and Dr. Dreads are really rough, it's like, oh, I should put my hair up. 

Jennifer Taylor: So that's not necessarily a comfortable sensation. Yeah. And so then you do three things that you can, hear.

Tava Baird: Okay. I can hear the rotating fan. I can hear the sound of your voice. And I have very big headphones on. Oh, I can slightly hear my own pulse in my ears. 

Jennifer Taylor: Nice. 

and then we have two things you can smell. What are two things you smell right now? Oh, you cannot smell. So listeners, I can't smell that. That's not gonna work for you. 

Tava Baird: I had surgery years ago and I can't smell. I know we have, at least, one listener, who does not see.

So if you have a sense that is, sort of non-operational in the [00:13:00] world around you, I guess we just add a couple of extras to maybe one of the other senses. So since I can't absolutely smell, um, I get to go eat a brownie and taste something extra, I think that's what it should be. Um, so I will go back and I will add a couple of things.

I can see this beautiful Japanese maple outside my window. I can see the sunlight on the grass and I can see the dark color of the sun on my driveway. Out the window. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yep. And then the last would be taste, 

Tava Baird: and that would be go get a cookie. Um, suddenly everyone listening to the podcast drives through Starbucks for taste.

Um, well taste. I don't have anything in my mouth, so I guess there's still sort of a faint paste of the toothpaste I used. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, there's, it's interesting. There is usually a taste like we're not aware of it because, you know, [00:14:00] otherwise we would be, there would be way too much sensory overload happening if we were aware of all these things all the time.

But it's amazing how when you really tune in, there is some kind of taste in your mouth, whether you've, you know, eaten something or not. There's some kind of taste. It's just, it takes a little bit of extra focus to zero in on what is that taste and everything that causes us to focus in more on our senses, brings us more into our body and helps us to ground and be more present.

I. 

Tava Baird: Uh, yesterday when I was, I woke up in the morning and I was still tired from the weekend, and I was kind of like, oh, my body's such a mess, and I, I sometimes will get into a little wallowing. So I was trying not to wallow, and instead I just thought, okay, what are three things your body needs? Let's just enumerate that.

And I was like, sorry, listeners, I need to pee. I need a drink of water. I need some aloe for my sunburn. And then I had a game [00:15:00] plan. What are three things my body needs? And I've been trying to do that over the last day is I'll sit somewhere and be kind of stuck and be like, what are three things? My body needs a nap.

Is that feasible right now? You know, like something to, something to drink. Um, maybe a walk around the room to get my joints moving. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. I love the, just asking yourself like three things, you know, what are three things that I can do for myself right now that I can do for my body? What are three things that I can do for my spirit right now?

What are three things I can do for, my mind, you know, to sort of maybe calm my mind? Or it may be that you need to stimulate your mind because you feel like things are just really dull. But I like that three things. It gives, it makes it a little bit more concrete and kind of attainable seeming than just sort of generally asking a question out to the universe, like, what do I need?

It can feel really overwhelming, but the idea of like, all right, I can come up with three things. I like that. 

Tava Baird: That. Like, do I need a [00:16:00] shower? Is my hair in my eyes? You know, like, what are all these, what are the little, sometimes there's little things going on in your body that are annoying you, you know, you kind of like, you need to clean your glasses, you got something stuck in your eye.

Whatever it is that you don't even really realize are slowly sapping your energy and being, you know, at one point yesterday I was like, I need to sit and stare at a wall for about five minutes. That's what I need to do is sit and stare at a wall and just breathe deep. And I'm always shocked by how shallow I tend to breathe a lot, you know, like, I have to stop and sit up straight.

Like everybody, even if you're in your car, sit up straight and 

Jennifer Taylor: ah, 

Tava Baird: yeah. And when as you breathe, just really breath as you breathe in. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, breathe in. Imagine expanding your lower belly. So we in this civilization often breathe completely ineffectively and not the way that we're meant to breathe.

Like [00:17:00] really breathe in and fill up your belly when you breathe in. And as you breathe out, bring your belly button towards your spine. And that's really how we're meant to breathe. Actually, I listened. I earned learned something really interesting this morning on another podcast. 

beyond the Reiki gateway was what I was listening to this morning, and it was fantastic. And they were talking about breathing and the guest was saying that we, our breath actually has a lot to do with how acidic or alkaline our body is. And I know a lot of people have probably heard of different things of saying, oh, well, you know, drinking coffee is acidifying in the body or the different foods.

There's a lot about there, out there about how different foods create either an alkaline or acidic sort of environment in our bodies and that our bodies are designed to operate from an alkaline state. But I'd never heard this. She was saying that how we breathe and our [00:18:00] thoughts actually have a lot to do with the alkalinity or the acidity in our body.

And that our thoughts can create like lots of really negative thoughts or anxious thoughts or, um, you know, all those kinds of thoughts that you really don't enjoy. Those thoughts actually create a more acidic environment in our body. And she was like, there's not enough, you know, fresh vegetables and fruits and stuff in the world to counteract that level of negative thought.

If we, when we really get into it. And was talking about how, um, integral our breathing is and how we really need to be breathing from that deep belly breathing. And so anytime we catch ourselves breathing more shallow, like you were saying, you know, how shallow we tend to breathe, our shallow breathing also tends to be associated with what kinds of thoughts we're having.

You know, what are, what are we telling ourselves? What are we tapped into? And it's [00:19:00] really hard to keep a really stressful, negative thought when we have big, deep belly breaths. And so the more we can do that, and especially too, I learned a long time ago when in, voice lessons in college that especially as women, we are taught really early on that you breathe up into your lungs, so you're expanding your chest and you keep your belly tight and pulled in.

You know, in our society is about, having you know, the flat belly and a big chest really when you think about it. And so we, it's like we are taught in order to fi fit in and look a certain way. To not fully expand our bellies.

And so when he, we, it was time to really have to take these big, deep supported breaths to really sing. We had to learn how to expand our belly to breathe because it was like, no, that's not, like, I didn't even realize you could breathe that way. I mean, I was in, I was in college and I [00:20:00] was like, you can't breathe like that.

You have to make your lungs big in order to expand, but you don't, you need to actually expand your belly deep down there and pull that diaphragm down and really draw in the air. Um, so just, yeah, just paying attention to our breath. And then adding in the idea of breathing in, you know, peaceful, divine energy from above, and 

then exhaling it down into the earth. And bringing that nourishing grounding up from the earth, just like we were doing at the beginning is really, really helpful. 

Tava Baird: You'll also find if you start breathing into your belly, and when you're talking that way, the two things start to happen to your voice a lot of times.

First off, your voice. You'll notice when you wake up in the morning, a lot of times because when you're asleep, you tend to breathe a a little bit deeper, that you wake up in the morning and your voice. S you'll sometimes sound a little bit deeper, sort of like Jente. And I do [00:21:00] today. You'll also be able to make your voice heard more.

'cause of my training in theater, I learned how to breathe from the diaphragm because, um, you know, back in the day when I was first in theater training, they didn't have headset mics and battery packs for the actors on stage. Your job was to learn how to make your voice be able to be heard in the back row of a packed 300 person theater.

And so you learn to breathe really deep and not to, have your voice come out of just your neck and your chest and be in your head, but to breathe deep and reject and deeper sounds, travel farther more effectively. So a lot of us as women, you know, we, we were supposed to sound, you know, somewhere up here where our registers higher and it's more feminine and that's all in the head and the nose and the [00:22:00] throat.

And if you try to do that from a stage, you will rip your throat out before you're even at the end of scene one. So you really have to be able to, as a singer or as an actor. Really let it go. And it would be funny, like I'd be at events, at the school that I would teach. And my lovely head of school was this very soft voice.

And we'd be outside at a picnic and she'd be like, everybody we're gonna start. And nobody would hear her and she'd go, everybody. And finally she'd just look at me and go, can you get their attention? And I'd go, sure. And I'd take a deep breath and let my deep voice come out and be like, oh buddy, we're about to start.

And everybody would stop and turn towards me and you didn't need a microphone. And so having that deep, it helps protect breathing deeply. Like that helps to protect your voice and it helps to make your voice heard and who doesn't wanna have their voice heard. [00:23:00]

Jennifer Taylor: You know, it's interesting too, the idea, uh, we were talking about being more in our bodies and operating from that place.

And it's interesting, you know, even just voice wise, when we were talking about and hearing your voice, the more, the deeper in your body that that breath is coming from and the more grounded you are, then. the more clearly you can have your voice heard and the more you can stand in a place of power and communicate from that grounded, solid place.

And it's, it's so interesting because you could hear it, you know, when you were going back and forth doing the, the kind of demonstration voices you can hear. It's like one sounds really solid and grounded and stable in where they are. And the other sounds really unsure and kind of untethered to their, their core.

Which I think is a really interesting thing to be, to have kind of heard and felt the energetic difference [00:24:00] in that as well. 

Tava Baird: I didn't, I didn't project into the microphone. 'cause y'all I would be loud. So, you know, idea when you were, you were preparing I was like, 

Jennifer Taylor: uhoh. 

Tava Baird: Oh yeah. We would have to turn the volume way down on my mic.

Yeah. Um, I, I have a little bit on breath coming from Awesome. By.

Oh my goodness. I just real realized something. Okay, I'll, sorry. I'll be back in a second. Okay. Is.

Right. Here we go. Alright. Okay. Something just made some sense to me. Um, okay. Okay. Okay. He is taking what we're saying about breath and circling back around and talking about breathing as a form of protection. 

Jennifer Taylor: Ooh. So 

Tava Baird: we were talking at the beginning of the podcast about that idea of running into the room and being like, Hey [00:25:00] everybody, I can now see you.

I hear you. I can feel you. And remember, he cautioned us against, we're not supposed to grab all hands at the same time that, um, we might grab one whose motivations are not the path we're meant to be on right now, whose teachings are not going to be set up in a way that we can absorb them without losing ourselves.

That there may be other entities coming in that are operating from a place of their own aims. And we, how do we walk into this wider space, into this wider realm and this bigger understanding of the world in a safe way or the world's, uh, in a safe way? And he says, first thing it comes back to is the breath.

So here we go. Breath is the measure of flow. I. Of the embodied spirit, [00:26:00] the rise and fall of your tides, gravels on the breath, ride the breath of life, and speak from that place. Let us return to the wider realm to the space you are being shown. When you run in, in wonder, you can't. You gasp. Your breath catches.

You lose your natural flow, and this is where entities may catch and influence you. Stabilize yourself with the breath to set the boundaries. It is not enough to cry out. Guides protect me. Crying is not stable. Breath, you must turn away unwanted [00:27:00] energies from your own core. We cannot do it for you. Or it is a physical breathe deep and set up good parameters from which to operate.

Okay. Wow. I don't, I don't know if you guys remember, but I was telling you, I think I mentioned this on the podcast, maybe a month or two ago, I was on my way to visit my friend Rics in Frederick, and I realized my car was full of stuff and I pulled into a random church parking lot to move things out so that I'd be able to drive her to lunch.

And there was a, there was a cemetery there and I realized I was actually early, this was right when I was starting to, sense spirits that weren't inside the blue ball in. And I went walking through [00:28:00] the graveyard and I felt something's sand was on my back. And if you remember the story, I was kind of pushed along and then kind of steered towards this one row of graves.

And there was a more recent grave there that had flowers sitting on top of it. And I said to Samuel, this one, and he said, no, keep walking. And then I ended up in front of this woman's grave and I immediately started to disassociate and I was pulling in her energy and she was, very sad and she wanted me to know about her pain.

And I started to like pant. I was freaking out because I could feel her. And I didn't have a lot of experience doing this. And I was scared and I was nervous, and I was becoming overwhelmed. And I was like, Samuel, what do I do? And she told, keep telling me, breathe, breath, [00:29:00] breathe. And I stood there and listened to his voice and got to a place where my breath was settled.

And once I was focused on having my breath settled and I was back in my body where I wasn't being rattled by her presence, I just kept standing very tall and breathing very deeply. And it got better. And then I was able to talk to her from a place where I could still hear her and I could say comforting words and we could have a conversation, but I didn't feel like I was gonna pass out anymore.

And I was able to stand there and say, this is my space. This is where I end. Your space is somewhere around me. But I [00:30:00] was able to set up boundaries without getting knocked to the floor. And I'm like, that's why all he kept saying to me is, breathe. Breathe to breathe through the disorientation ground myself.

Be focused on my own Breath. Breath is the measure of the flow of the embodied spirit. He says, if we're going and we're lancing like a dog, the flow of our energy becomes shallow. We are not grounded. We are not operating from a centered place. We can easily be knocked over by other energies or overwhelmed by them.

Breath is the first step. The setting up energetic boundaries so that we can operate with both the bodied and the [00:31:00]disembodied from a grounded state. Jen, I'm reminded of there you, it was something you taught me once about moving the flow of energy between you and another person in like an eternity symbol.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. Making like a, figuring, figuring out the flow Sort of eternity. Yeah. Like in between the two of you so that you kept the flow going so it didn't come at you and get sort. So you know, their energy and their words weren't like, sort of plastered on you, but rather kind of came in, you got the gist of it, you understood it, and it went back out and your words flowed to them, went through, went in and flowed back out and towards you.

Yeah. It's like making a drawing, like a figure eight in the air, on its side, going back and forth between each of you or seeing that in your mind, just seeing that continuously moving, Eternity, symbol moving between you keeping the [00:32:00] energy flowing and moving so that it wasn't stagnating and nobody was getting kind of crushed under the weight of the other person's.

Tava Baird: Okay. He says something else here. Oh,

8 8 8, the eternity symbol on its side is an eight. The energy of Metatron know from your gate to theirs. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh wow. 

Tava Baird: And my 

Jennifer Taylor: gate portal goes. Woke up, you woke up in the middle of the night while you were at the Ren fair with, with somebody on the TV talking about 8, 8, 8. Perfect. And you were, you were saying in a Marco about the 8, 8, 8.

It is like, I feel like Metatron is coming in. And it was, right in this time when you were opening to so many people and all these energies were happening, you were like, what is going on? I think Metatron and here he's [00:33:00] going 8, 8, 8. The flow from each of our gates from one gate to another and 

Tava Baird: back again.

Yeah. So guys, so those of you who are listening also, only Jenna and Keith know this story. So, um, we were at the Ren Fair. We went and set up, uh, Friday and it was raining and it was, it was kind of crazy. And then we went to bed Friday night and one of my friends that I travel with, she had a late night talk show host on the tv.

And I fell asleep while that was on, and I don't usually fall asleep to television. but she had it on in the room and I fell asleep on my bed, and then she fell asleep on hers without turning it off. So this television is playing. Far into the night, of course, the talk show host and you know, that whatever the show was ends and in the middle of the night, for some reason or another, I was in a, a lial space.

And I suppose, [00:34:00] um, although I'd been sleeping for hours, but something got me to this place where suddenly I was hearing the television. What was on the television was a preacher. Like it was like a, a late night, one of those like, uh, evangelical preacher shows. But what was so wacky and weird, I could hear a guy talking, but the stuff that he was saying was all about the number eight.

He was saying things that made no sense. Like he was like, Jesus died and rose on the eighth day. Okay. I was Roman Catholic enough to know it. Wa wasn't the eighth day folks, it was the third day. And anybody who'd be saying that on television, that makes no sense. And she started talking about 8, 8, 8 en numerology and like saying all of this stuff.

That was a weird blend of like late night evangelical preacher talk with the [00:35:00] number eight. Inserted in strange places. Like whenever he said anything that had to do with a number, the number eight would be there. And it was freaking me out enough that I woke up and I yelled over at my friend Kathy, do you have the remote?

Make him stop talking. And she couldn't find the remote. So she got up and kind of stumbled over to the TV and turned it off. But the next day I woke up and I could hear what this guy was saying. And I was like, that made no sense. 

The next morning I woke up and I was like, Kathy, did you hear when you went to turn off the tv did you hear that guy talking about the, number eight? And she was like, I was really tired. I wasn't paying any attention to him.

I had the number eight all through everything he was saying for quite some time. And it was weirding me out. 'cause I was like, okay. Either I was getting some sort of message through the TV or it was filtering what he was saying to deliver me [00:36:00] this whole thing about. And I was like, eight is Metatron, isn't it?

Wasn't that what we said back on the Metatron episode was this eight thing? So you're right. I left a Marco for Jen that was like, there had to be a gator, a portal somewhere near me not even thinking about the fact that I had just started doing bone readings for people and was opening up to all of these people, a lot of whom had really strong psychic energy about them.

Um, and so I think that was that whole, it wasn't that there was a portal or a gate near me, it was that my personal portal was already expanding. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. And possibly sort of instructive of the, you know, like you could use Yes. That figure eight thing. You could use that in order to, to be taking in the information but not keeping it and carrying it around Yes.

And allowing it to flow back out. 

Tava Baird: and if I had been smart [00:37:00] enough to realize that I would've been able to make that motion or to think about the flow between rather. So when I did have a spirit suddenly sort of stuck to me in that tent, I could have been like, all right, time to move on. I'll deliver the message.

You're welcome to hang out and wait until I deliver it, and then you need to move on because this person isn't someone I will probably ever see again. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. And yeah, and what you can't see unless you're watching this on YouTube, is as she's doing that, she's making that figure eight in and out of between her, because that is what she actually said.

But by doing the figure eight at the same time in the air. That would've kind of helped that whole message and facilitated all that. It's funny when you were saying like, if I thought about it, yeah. I think sometimes the angels and stuff give us a little bit too much credit for like, that we are going to maybe put together the, you know, hearing a preacher talking about eight in the middle of the night that didn't seem to make any sense.

And [00:38:00] then the next day having, having this interaction with the spirit and being like, oh yeah, maybe I should make figure eights in the air. I bet that was foreshadowing or preparing us. I should have done that. I should have done that. Yeah. I'm like, oh, I would not have, uh, yeah, we always say not to shut ourselves.

Yeah. That, uh, 

Tava Baird: yeah. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. That, that would be a big leap. I, I don't note, I don't think I would've made that, 

Tava Baird: that leap, but yeah, I didn't think that the eight had anything to do with me, you know, I just thought I was picking up on something in the Yeah. Yeah. This is also from the woman who Samuel called it, um, Shala for how many months before.

I told him I didn't know what the word meant and he was like, you don't have this word. So like, I don't always clue in as fast as everyone thinks I do. 

Jennifer Taylor: Well, I, I 

Tava Baird: don't, I think none of us energy of Metatron. No, 

Jennifer Taylor: that's fascinating. Interesting. This whole 

Tava Baird: thing on the breath. 

Jennifer Taylor: Um, I wanted to, I. Ask Samo [00:39:00] if he has anything that. He can tell us about the last song and why the ding dong thing going over and over. Like, you know, I feel like I was definitely being told that because I did not want to, so I feel like surely that was what was supposed to come through.

But I'm really confused by it because I thought maybe in the hearing of his message, it was all gonna make sense, but it did not seem to me I was not able to put those two things together. 

Tava Baird: I've already got an answer for you. And he's also, I also just got in trouble for something. Okay. Hang on one second, I'm gonna grab something.

Jennifer Taylor: Okay.

Tava Baird: Okay. Yeah. Guys, I'm holding a bell, a lovely little bell with a Cheshire moon on the top of it and a little goddess symbol on the side. I got this up at, not to plug another place that I love, but I'm gonna, there's a new, lovely metaphysical shop in [00:40:00] Frederick Maryland called The Simple Life.

And, when I was up at the Simple Life a few weeks ago, I got this bell and I realized I used to use a bell all the time in my classroom. It was the signal we would do in a Montessori classroom to get people's attention so that you weren't shouting over them. You would ring the bell and the children would all stop and turn towards you sort of like a sunflower, um, knowing that there was important information that everybody needed to have.

And Jen, you were going, ding dong, ding dong. I bought this bell so that I could use it to clear space for myself during the podcast, and I hadn't, I haven't brought it off my altar until just now. You asked about the last song and you asked about the ding dong sound. He said, Bell's clear space. They balance.

Where is your bell? Um, Shaah. So I believe the fact that you were bringing through the ding don ding dong was to, it was a [00:41:00] space clearing song meant. To, sort of clear the energy around you and me that we've been, we were talking about, we feel like we picked up all these energies. So Michael is sending through something that's gonna clear and ground so that we can do the work that we need to do here today.

And that's why you're getting this bell sound. 

Jennifer Taylor: Okay. Interesting. And it's, it's funny, I, I didn't feel an impulse to pick up a bell, and yet no clear I was, it was this very clear ding don ding dong. I was like, okay. I, I feel like I'm losing my mind. but it's so and funny are the bell says that because I do, I use the, I mean I use bells a lot and Yeah.

And to clear space and, but yeah, so in this case, I just was the bell, which was a different thing for me. 

Tava Baird: He said it cleared the space internally faster.[00:42:00]

He said the care of the instrument

of the divine. So you going ding dong is bringing out a bell sound that's going from the inside out as opposed to something like this, which works from the outside in. Oh, interesting. 

I'm just rereading it. Bell's clear space.

They balance. Where is your bell? Umsla. So I went to get it, it cleared the space internally faster. The care of the instrument of the divine. So I'm Jenn you're on self cleaning mode. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, yeah. So I'm just gonna need to go around going Ding dong, ding dong. It's in. So I'm wondering, the fact that I was singing it, it sounds like it was definitely clearing me and it was clearing stuff from the inside out.

Is there something different from [00:43:00] people hearing that, like a sort of a clearing effect that it had for our listeners by the fact that I was singing it and it was coming from the inside out as opposed to playing a bell? Or is it really about cleaning me as the instrument?

Tava Baird: Oh, this is cool.

He said, yes, you doing that is cleansing for people listening. And he says bells also define doorways way the shop door, the front door entrances and exits.

They announce, arrivals. [00:44:00] Arrivals into your space.

Oh my gosh. Okay. I think this is gonna end up bells, I think is probably gonna be the foray into another podcast. The idea of, you think about it, you walk into a shop, you open the door, it goes ding, ding, ding. It announces your arrival. It shows you are crossing a boundary into a new area. And you have a doorbell at your front door.

Same thing. Someone is here and wants to come in. I think there's also a second part, aside from the space clearing, that has to do with setting energetic boundaries. Yeah. And I'm thinking also right now when you communicate with spirits, and one way, and I've just learned this recently, one of the tools they use is called a dead bell, where they communicate by ringing the bell from the other realm.

I think we could dive [00:45:00] into bells the next time we get together. I think there's gonna be a whole lot on this. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, I It sounds like it. And it does it, it feels like it. It's ringing a bell in my, it rings a bell. I, I feel like there's, you know, 'cause he was talking about, the breath and us setting.

The, boundaries between us and the rest of the world. And if we are singing a bell, if we're using like this energy of the bell, then we are kind of also delineating, this is my space, this is your space. Like this is the space where I am, this is where the boundary is. And the bell not only clears it out, but also says to those maybe around us, this is my space.

This is your space. 

Tava Baird: This is so interesting. And I know we have to wrap this up quick, but I just wanna throw in this one last little bit. Yeah. Because it's my brain right now is going blah. Do you know what the definition of being cockney [00:46:00] is in England? No. So this was a big story a couple years ago.

there's people who speak with a cockney accent, but they also have their own culture when being cockney is defined as having been born within the sound of a particular church bell at a particular parish. And there was a big deal a couple years ago because that church was taking down its bells.

Like the church I think was falling apart. And this was the definition of how you knew you were of the cockney people. Was that you were born within the sound hearing of that particular church Bell. And so they were saying, will there be anyone who is Cockney anymore? Oh, wow. And so Bells can actually define and have defined whole areas.

If you are in [00:47:00] this energetic space where you can hear this bell, you are part of this particular tribe. And I'll, see if I can find the article and go more into this. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. I think 

Tava Baird: we're about to hit when you, I mean, I think there's gonna be a whole thing. I know Bells their shape are supposed to be the sacred feminine.

I mean 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. 

Tava Baird: Yeah. There's gonna be a lot here. There is, yeah. 

Jennifer Taylor: There is a lot to bells. Yeah. There's a, there was a lot that we learned about in our, sound healing, classes and consciousness stuff about bells and the kind of ringer part inside it. And the bell. Yeah. Oh, this is fascinating.

I think we are definitely gonna have to talk about bells next week. Yes. Yes. Yes. 

Tava Baird: Would you like to ding dong us out? 

Jennifer Taylor: I will. I was gonna say, we'll see what, we'll see what comes out. Maybe it's more, uh, ding doning. I also want to just give credit to that, podcast that I was listening to that really helped me to be able to be more in my body and be here for this podcast.

It was again, Beyond the Reiki gateway. And it was specifically an [00:48:00] episode, um, let's see, it was season five, episode 21, and it was with Dr. Sue Morter and I'll, we'll put that in the notes. But it was used energy codes to live your best life. And there was a lot of stuff in there that I was really benefiting from it from like instantly in the moment as I was listening to.

So if you need something to do while you're waiting for the next podcast to come out, I highly recommend it because, um, it really helped me. And so a shout out to them and a gratitude for helping to get me here today. And yeah, so I will sing and we'll, we'll see what comes out this time, 

Tava Baird: see what comes out.

Jennifer Taylor: I'm glad I didn't resist to the point of not doing it. The ding-dong thing, I was like, all right, I feel like this is too far. 

Tava Baird: It's just clearing and balancing. Yep. 

Jennifer Taylor: Alright.

[00:49:00] [00:50:00] I think he wanted an opportunity to have me do it with gusto and without resistance this time. Ah, 

Tava Baird: I said to Sam Ael as you were doing it, any last words. And he laughed and he said, give them my blessing, um, Shaah and tell them to rest. 

Jennifer Taylor: Lovely. [00:51:00] Well, thank you to everyone for, as always just joining us on this incredible journey and, just riding this roller coaster of messages and experiences with us.

And, 

Tava Baird: thank you for all the good care you guys take of us. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. And take really good care of yourselves this week and we look forward to connecting with you again next week. 

Tava Baird: Until next time. Bye.