Mystical Musings
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Mystical Musings
Messages and Miracles Part 2
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Messages and Miracles (Part 2)
In this episode of Mystical Musings, Jennifer Taylor and Tava Baird continue their deep dive into divine guidance and the significance of earthly struggles. They explore the messages brought through dreams and shamanic journeys, discuss the delicate balance of heavenly intervention, the power of asking for help, and how to recognize and create miracles in everyday life.
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Jennifer Taylor: [00:00:00] So welcome to another episode of Mystical Musings and thank you for joining us for part two of this conversation. If you have not listened to part one first, please do so because it probably isn't gonna make nearly as much sense, um, and will probably seem a lot more disjointed. So I encourage you to do that.
Um, but for those of you who have, it may have been an entire week since you've heard it or potentially longer, so. I wanted to just give you a little bit of a recap to remind you of the conversation that we were having last week, and then also replay the little section of the words that Tava had brought through from Sam that, or the words that we keep kind of referring back to, and that really sparked this whole discussion.
So I was talking last week about the. Number 2, 5 2 9 0. [00:01:00] That had come to me in a dream and then in, again, in a shamanic journey and connection with ancestors and all of the different routes that I had taken to try to figure out what this number meant for me and all of the different ways that it had come, um, that the messages had come for me between.
Finding out, about the city in Mexico and this, miracle of the Virgin of Guadalupe or our Lady of Guadalupe. And then the Angel number and the Dewey Decimal number version of it and all of these things. And then we concluded with Tava telling a story about traveling to Germany as a child and having an experience in a small chapel where a miracle had taken place many, many years before.
And her experience of the fact that. [00:02:00] The miracle had happened in this tiny little room, in this tiny little chapel that had been created around this little hand carved wooden statue of the Virgin Mary that had, um, inspired such devotion that this farmer had created this whole little chapel around it.
And then how once word had gotten out about the miracle of the. A statue, um, crying. then all of these people started coming from all over and he had thousands of people camping out on his farm and they ended up building a large cathedral that was all filled with gold and marble, and then having a big procession and moving this statue of Virgin Mary from this small.
Chapel where the original miracles had taken place and moving it into this cathedral. So I just wanted to [00:03:00]remind you of those things because the rest of the conversation tends to refer back to both of those, and that will just help everything to kinda gel and and flow together a lot better.
And so also as we always like to start an episode with a song for you to help to set the stage for the conversation and set the energy as well. we're going to replay the song that started this conversation last week because that was also the song that was. Helping to bring through the energy and was happening at the same time that Tava was receiving the words from Sam Iel that you will hear right after.
So here is the song to bring in and call in all of the just the right energies to help to hold this space for you today. And then Sam Miles words,
So we're just gonna go ahead and move into, me singing [00:04:00] and just as always inviting Samael and Michael and Gabriel to sing through me and bring through whatever energy is in the highest good of this session, this conversation, and setting this space for all of us to be here together and learn and expand. [00:05:00] [00:06:00] [00:07:00] [00:08:00]Oh.
Tava Baird: this is what Samael had to say while you were singing.
"There is work to [00:09:00] do in this realm, growth and expansion, settling and destruction, transformation and all that it entails. And as a human, your divine soul chose to inhabit an earthly form so that the experiences could be utilized to reveal divine patterns. You've chose to come here, and in doing so, were separated enough to forget.
One of the greatest pains in this realm is the pain of loneliness, but we cannot rescue you from it entirely. Les, the work you do be negated. It is a balance. How much may we interfere without tipping the scales? How much can we share with you without completely altering [00:10:00] the environment? We are careful.
We speak softly, we move in natural spaces, and sometimes our presence manifests. What you have termed a miracle, an expression of the divine that many see, sometimes intentional, sometimes not. When intentional, they are meant for inspiration. Your men who place themselves high make rules. Consider whether an act is worthy of recognition.
I would argue child that you alone can decide what is a miracle and what is not."
Jennifer Taylor: yeah, that's such a fascinating perspective that he was giving of you know, it's like we, we want to help you, we want to give you the inspiration, but [00:11:00] if we go too far. the focus shifts or then the work isn't being done.
it sounds like it's really important that the work be done through us and not necessarily just like, oh, alright, you know, we're gonna just ask the angels. They're gonna come down, they're gonna, like you said, they're gonna, just heal thousands of people they're gonna fix this whole war area and settle everything.
Because if they did, we wouldn't be learning what we need to learn. You know, we would just defer to them for everything. Yeah. Too. And, and not discover and learn and have the experiences through our physical bodies that we're meant to be having, which is how we're creating those patterns for Metatron to use.
And, working for the complete expansion of the universe, it has to be done through us. And it's so interesting because I think so many times people are asking [00:12:00] for, you know, and myself included, you know, it's like sometimes we're asking for that. You come in and do it for me. And when that doesn't happen, there tends to be this kind of loss of faith or this sense of, see, I'm, I'm alone, God's not really coming in to, to save me or to fix this.
Or people then question. Their faith or question, God or whatever their understanding of the divine is, because they look around and say, but look at all this war. Look at all these things that are happening. Look at all the, the people who are sick. Look at all the things that we label as tragedies and, and all of this.
Like, how can there be a God if all of this is allowed to happen? Like, no, God, that is love would allow all this stuff to happen. And that sounds like that the truth of all of it is really that somewhere in between place of we have to be [00:13:00] motivated to make the difference, to step in to, to change the tides of, human, behavior and belief and actions.
You know, we have to be willing to physically pick up that person and help them. we have to find that within ourselves. We have to find that God in ourselves, that aspect of divinity, that, that remembering. And the more we find that, the more we're able to, to affect the kind of change that we would, we want something outside of ourselves to do.
And the idea then of the angels and all of these other, more expanded kinds of beings that had, that are in there remembering, coming in and being like, we're just try, you know, we need to give you enough to inspire you, not so much that it's gonna freak you out. Not so much that it's going to, you know, throw off the balance of all the work and how it needs to be done.
And that has to be [00:14:00] a really challenging thing. I think it's so fascinating, the idea that, I think I tend to still kind of think of angels and beings like that as so wise, so kind of perfect that they don't mess up. They don't have like, oops, I, uh, I just sort of made something that's gonna last forever and something that was not meant to be, and now it's kind of also made out of celestial material that didn't come from earth.
Sorry. I just really wanted them to build the temple so that I could share my love with them.
Tava Baird: It's like I dropped my wallet on Earth. Oh, great. Now, but you know, like, and, and I think, our Western society is very much shaped by Christianity. And one of the first things that, they talk about there is this, God is all loving and all knowing, and you get this idea that the divine is absolutely a hundred percent perfect all of the time.
And that we are not, and [00:15:00] what Samuel has been shoving us towards. Over the last months and months and months is not this idea that the divine is something outside of ourselves, that it is not something separate. That when we talk about angels and demons and when we talk about God and humans, that our framing is wrong.
That we have this mindset that things are a certain way and we've built all of our beliefs on top of that, when in fact there's a lot more gray area there than we think. And when we empower ourselves and say, I am part of the all, I am part of the divine, I am doing important work here, then everything gets adjusted.
It's like we were talking about fallen angels, on our [00:16:00] last couple of podcasts, you were just talking about this. They can't. It. We, a lot of times if they swooped in, it negates the sacrifice that we as divine beings made to come here. Like imagine, Michael says, we need energy to open up a new realm.
A bunch of the angels go. We'll create this energy by shifting what we are and going to a new place and making this huge sacrifice. Imagine how awful it would've been if Michael came back after they did that and said, oh, nope, my bad. Just come on back up. Everything's fine, right? Like, we didn't really need it.
They would've been like, are you kidding? we suffered and we worked and we sacrificed and we soul searched and we made, huge leaps in who we are as beings. And now you're just gonna come in and try to in like negate it in that same way. We are here doing this work for a reason. [00:17:00] We are forgetting our connection for a reason.
We are making a sacrifice to be here. And if they just swoop in and tie our shoelaces for us, then whatever we might've learned in trying to struggle and put on our shoes ourselves is lost. It reminded me back when I was a toddler teacher. I would watch, and it's a noble impulse. A lot of parents have that.
My child will never know struggle, right? I don't want them to suffer. I don't want them to get frustrated. And so they would do everything for the child. And what you would see the child though, and the child didn't learn. And when they had to be out on their own, then they were really struggling because they had never had the opportunity to butt up against challenge before and learn how to deal with frustration.
And the world is full of challenge [00:18:00] and frustration. And so I remember as a Montessori teacher, I would say, alright, we're gonna go out to the playground. Everybody gets your socks on. And watching a room full of toddlers try to put on their socks, it's, it's, first off, it's gonna take 40 minutes. Okay?
Because they don't really have the skills yet to kind of get all those toes in. They tip over, they will cry out in frustration. They can't find their socks. and your first instinct is, I'm just gonna put all these kids on and get us out the door done. But the thing they told us in Montessori training is if you do that.
That child will never learn. And if you do that, you are taking away their power. You are saying to them, I don't trust that you can do this, that you are skilled enough, that you're smart enough that you have this ability. I'm just gonna do it for you [00:19:00] because I can do it better. And that crushes something in the spirit that's worse than the feeling of frustration.
And so I would sit there and sit on my hands until a kid said, please help. And once they asked for help, I was right there. But to go in and just do it because I can do it easier, faster, and better, of course I can. I'm an adult. I've been doing it for decades. But in doing that, I was stealing their power.
And so I think that's an important lesson that the Divine is around us a lot, trying to remind us of our own power and give us chances to manifest it, to stand in it, to rise above. They're trying to inspire us with miracles and stories and [00:20:00]access to music and art. They push us towards each other, but if they come in and hold on our SpongeBob swear pants, socks for us.
The point of being here is gone.
Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. there's so much beauty and wisdom and what you just said, and I was thinking about so many different aspects of that from the, not wanting to disempower us by coming in and doing it for us. And also the importance of asking for help.
You know, it wasn't that you were going to just let them struggle all day long trying to get those socks on and not help them if, when they decided they needed it. But I've had so many, and I can't remember exactly who this came from. It may have been Michael that was saying that it is a critical thing to have someone ask you for help and not to kind of [00:21:00]swoop in and do it.
And that the asking for help is actually like the first step in the healing that for a person to book that, energy healing session or book that spiritual consultation session with you or, have that bone reading or whatever it is, or. go to a doctor and say, I'm tired of feeling this way.
You know what, whatever that asking for help looks like that. By the very act of doing that, that actually helps to catalyze the healing process. And that starts happening. But if we come in and, offer it and then take over and they're like, here, let me just send this. Let me do this for you, let me do this for you.
That we are really setting them back in their process and kind of doing what you were describing with a toddler. It, it disempowers them and it takes away the learning. And, they may have been getting to where [00:22:00] they were just about hitting that threshold where they're like, I cannot do it on my own.
I need to ask for help And in asking for that help, it opens those doors within them to allow the healing. And I know Samael was talking about and had said, through you, to me about that healing is a meeting. we can't do it for them. You know, so sometimes you'll have somebody that schedules a, a session, but they're kind of, they're expecting me to do the work for them to an extent that if they're not really willing, if they're not really meeting me there, they can't really receive the full benefit of the session.
And I think that's part of that. Asking for help too. Some of the is that, that being willing to show up and that the angels and stuff, they need us to step up and claim our own power and ask for help and be willing to work in concert with them. Not just, you know, Hey, [00:23:00] come in and do it for me.
And it's interesting because I've thought so many times, I am I feel so blessed to have these, all of these angels and these different divine beings in my life and to be able to, when I am really afraid or there's a big event coming up, to be able to call them in and ask for their help.
And I have seen and felt and witnessed so many incredible shifts in the way that things were going because of their presence. And I've thought, oh my gosh, I feel so, it's like almost like I feel guilty for having this. It's like a cheat code somehow, for life that what about people that don't have it?
But I realize everybody has this available to them, but they need to be asking, it's that step of asking for the help that allows this, allows all of this to transpire. Yeah. And it's not like the whole world is just that every problem is fixed, [00:24:00] but that things can kind of, can usually be mitigated or softened or.
made more gentle. If it is a big lesson or there is something that you're gonna have to go through because this was a sole contractor. It's something that you need, a lesson, you need to learn. The lessons can at least be kind of softened and mitigated and shifted more towards a place of grace and ease when you're working in concert with, one of the angels or the goddesses or these other beings.
but it comes from, I think that us having to do our part in it and the fact that we're doing our part, they're willing to help out because they're going to empower us by supporting us and validate our knowledge that this stuff is possible and our knowledge that we can affect this kind of change in our environments.
but without doing it for us.
Tava Baird: Yes. [00:25:00] Not to go back to socks, but I kind of feel like here's a little circle coming around here. So you had this number shown to you and you were motivated. I'm gonna figure out what it means. I'm gonna figure out what it means. It's being shown to me at this particular time in my life for a reason.
Okay. One of the things that I would do in my toddler classroom, if I had that one kid who was just trying to get his socks on. But I could see he was so close to getting it, he could just get that pinky toe where it needed to go. Couldn't do it for him. But what I would do sometimes is go sit down next to him and I would take off my own saw and I would put it back on really slowly so he could see what I was doing.
Now he could choose not to look if he wanted to, but then I would take it off again and I would do it again. I take it off and do it again. [00:26:00] And usually the child would clue into, right, there's something she's doing that's working that I'm not doing. And they would start to pay really close attention. And then they started to see, oh, it's being stretched out over the pinky toe.
I'm not doing the stretching. And then a couple more tries, they'd have it. I feel like in giving you that number, that was Michael, or it was the divine going, Hey Zen, you're working on a healing modality that's gonna inspire a lot of people. You are going to have overcome people thinking, I don't have a connection with a divine.
As you explain these things. I, we also want you to remember your own power and the places that you have connected within your life for inspiration. [00:27:00] We're gonna give you this number and then watch you go to work, watch you see the connection to sermons. Watch you see the connection to this miracle. We're showing you how in the past it's been stretched over the pinky toe so that when you go to put on your sock for the temple of song, when you go to reach out to the people that you are healing, when you run up against somebody who can't see, your own bishop going, we're gonna need more than that.
You go, I know I'm connected to the divine. I'm just gonna stretch the sock out slightly to the left. and so I kind of feel like that number was an inspiration, a guidepost for you to follow, put there to help you and inspire you as you go through the end of one cycle in the beginning of another.
And now you have [00:28:00] that story in your arsenal that you didn't even know existed before. You have all of that which clearly is a divine intervention. You have all of that and say, if the divine can reach a man with his burlap cape walking over a mountain in Mexico 500 years ago, it can reach into my life and the lives of the people that I teach as well.
Jennifer Taylor: Yeah.
Tava Baird: So,
Jennifer Taylor: and they always, you make such a point of saying, this was just a really impoverished man who was doing his best and on his way. And apparently I think he was learning, he was studying, to learn more about this new path that had been presented. And, I think it's really interesting because I think so many of us, I know I have that like, but why me?
Like, why would I be chosen [00:29:00] to, create this temple of song? Why would I be given this? And, you look and it's like, well, why was he given it? there's a sense of expecting this sort of stuff is given to someone who is somehow. so much better than the rest of us.
You know, it's like when somebody comes out with this incredible new, healing modality or path or something, I think it's kind of human nature. It's kind of built in to think there was something different about them. There was something more special about them already, and that's why they were able to bring this through.
That was why that was able to happen. And I think that kind of story, the fact that it came through to him is the perfect proof of why not me? Because, I'm a human. Why not me? Why not? And I'm somebody who is really incredibly devoted to wanting with every part of my being, to bring through greater healing, [00:30:00] to bring through greater health and clarity and, a sense of support to other people.
And, you know, why not? But I think that kind of story of this incredible miracle coming through. what is it? And it's so funny, I, never like quote the Bible, but this thing keeps coming in my head of something about the least of these is somewhere mm-hmm.
Mentioned Yes. and I don't remember what the scripture was, but It was something about like, God's kingdom is given to the least, or something like that. and it's been kind of used by a lot of people to vilify having money or that being rich is somehow now evil and it's only, God's only gonna give it to the least.
Uh, you know, God's only gonna give the kingdom to the people that are poor. And so it's more noble or more, spiritual to be poor. But I think this is why this is being shown to me like this, I keep hearing this in the back of my mind is no, it's the idea that any of you, you know, if you consider it as like, if he's gonna give [00:31:00] it to the least, then surely, you know, I think the message is supposed to be then surely I'm included in that.
Yeah. because you know, if I was gonna be the last one picked to be, on teams to play some game in elementary school, that last person still gonna get the trophy, you know?
And so, the idea that, yeah. there is no sort of hierarchy, We are going to receive the blessings and the support and the help and the inspiration to bring through what we are most designed to, to bring through. And there doesn't have to be something extraordinarily different about you for that to be it or to receive the miracle or whatever it is.
Tava Baird: Right before you said that, Sam Mayel had just said the question is not why singer. The question is why not? Then you actually said it right after that. And, and I think that's true. It's like, okay, so say, say there's a strange turn of fate [00:32:00] then, and you and I both end up as millionaires. Doesn't mean we're horrible people, but let's do something good with the resources we have.
Right? We all need to do good things with the resources that we have. And I that's one of the things that, you know, that story about the huge cathedral versus the little tiny chapel. I remember walking into the cathedral and thinking, okay, yeah, you needed to have a bigger place for people to come see the statue, get that right, but did you have to make it this?
Like, could you have not just built a really big barn and that was nice and gone from there and used those other resources for education. Food, you know? Right. Something else. Um, you know, let's use the resources we have in a good way. You know, there are some incredible philanthropists.
the first one that springs to mind is, Melinda Gates. Right. [00:33:00] You know, like, woman has a lot of money, but she does some incredible things with it. And so, I'm not trying to say just because, you know, I said before, you don't generally see a wealthy man in a wealthy funded church is where the miracles are coming in.
They've got some power and resources at their disposal. I think these miracles are popping in to remind us that while we might not have financial resources or we might not have a big platform, we do have resources at our disposal. And they are in the form of our friends and our neighbors. In the good work that we do, they are in the form of trying to heal and comfort and soothe.
in going out and taking what's been left behind, as we were talking about the church yard sale, something else interesting, clopped into [00:34:00] my head. When we started off the episode, I was talking about the doll at the Blue Ball Inn. And I had asked Joseph a couple days ago, where did the doll come from?
You know, the one that has a spirit attached to the doll. And, the spirit's always asking for the doll to be picked up and held. And we regarded that with great suspicion before, right. But then we realized that that's how the spirit wants to be touched. It wants to experience touch and that it's doing that when we touch the doll.
And when I was at the end yesterday, Joseph said, you know what, when you asked me where I got the doll, I couldn't exactly remember. I just remembered my mother giving it to me. So I called up my mother and asked like, could she remind me what the exact story was? And it turned out that that doll and one other one that's a Native American doll had been [00:35:00] donated to his mother's church yard sale.
Jennifer Taylor: Mm.
Tava Baird: And nobody wanted them. Nobody would take them home. And at the end of the yard sale, the, there was a woman who was a friend of his mother's, who apparently was, I believe he said she may have been gifted on a spiritual level, just couldn't stand to see the dolls without a place to go and knew that Joseph had the inn and gave them to his mother.
And she gave them to him. I think I've got the story right, but the thing that stood out to me is we're talking about this statue in Germany as I'm like, oh yeah, church yard sale. The things you find at a church yard sale
Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. To which may end up being a miracle, may end up being a very heavily opinionated, haunted doll.
Tava Baird: Yes, yes. But the thing was that was, while the haunted doll comes on very strong and can be very intimidating, once we get past [00:36:00] that initial sort of swaggering bravado that the spirit has, the thing underneath it is that the spirit's lonely and it wants to be held and it wants to be touched, and it wants people to pay attention to it.
It's lonely and I think there's a tremendous amount of power. Samuel said,
one of the greatest pains in this realm is the pain of loneliness. So. And that's, that's true. I mean, there's physical pain, but I don't know if you've ever felt lonely for someone so badly that your stomach is in Knox and you can't function. it's horrible. And I think we can do a tremendous amount, no matter what, our resources to alleviate loneliness and, to build community.
That's what we're trying to do on this podcast. Look at us, circle back around.
Jennifer Taylor: So, [00:37:00] absolutely. There was one other thing that popped in when, we were talking about the ways that the spirits, and the divine and the angels and all of our guides help us. And it, when you were talking about you're putting the sock on and cow going kind of next to them and demonstrating, you know,
when you were talking about that number. So the number initially came in and I was, you know, I was really motivated. I was talking to you guys about it, but then it had been several days and I had not kind of looped back and followed up and done the research.
And then, the. Ancestors lit, quite literally. Were pecking at the window in the form of the cardinal going, Hey, remember you, you got some work to do. Remember you were supposed to connect with us, we were gonna do this thing. and it's, it's interesting. I find that one of the things that they do is they're not gonna do the work for us, but at the same time, they do happen to pop in and say, [00:38:00] Hey, remember that?
Like, you'll get these messages again and again. You know? Yes. So there does seem to be a, a level of nudging forward. You know, it's like, we're not gonna come in and take over and do it, but we're going to keep saying, Hey, remember that thing. Um, might wanna look at it.
Tava Baird: Yeah.
Jennifer Taylor: And then maybe they'll put it in front of us again and, you know, then I, I connect with the ancestors and then there's that number again.
Yep. and I find that there is definitely a persistence involved in the, working with, all these divine guides because. They, want to help keep us on track. And I think especially when we're asking for that, you know, we're saying, yeah, I am actively working in conscious relationship with you.
I, I want your help, I want your input. I think the more we, state that and we stand in our power, so we're not sitting around going, do this for me, do this for me, do this for me, but I'm working, I'm doing as much of [00:39:00] my part as I can. Then I feel like there's just that much more nudging. or maybe it just feels that much more obvious because I always say, you know, Spirit sort of whispers and then when you're not listening, spirit talks a little louder, and then when you're not listening, it talks a little louder.
And then before you know it, it has the, like bullhorn going, don't make me turn it all the way up because the messages are gonna come through. And a lot harder kind of to, to tolerate ways when, they start the shouting.
Tava Baird: I was at, it was actually at fertile ground gathering earlier this year.
I was doing a bone casting demo. so I had a whole bunch of people standing around and I was throwing the bones and just reading out loud what I saw. And I didn't have a particular question in mind 'cause I was just doing a demonstration. And so I said something about like, okay, you could ask the question, what do I need to focus on?
Toss bones. And there was something I'd been putting off doing and it came up really clear like, and I went, [00:40:00]oh, come on, I'm doing a demo. And like the bones just took the opportunity to be like, you forgot to do this, you forgot to do it now, of course I had all these people standing around me going, what does it say?
So I then had to vocalize, yeah, there was this thing I was supposed to do that I didn't do and I'm basically just getting, the divine is breathing down my neck to get moving on it. And everyone was like, well, you better get moving then. And I was like, okay. they really do take the opportunity.
I did a bone reading for someone the other day and a lot of people when they contact me for bone readings, they wanna know what guides are like, what guides are around, what guides can I call on? And this particular reading was really interesting because it came, the message came back that there were guides that were exiting.
That, weren't really where the person needed to be going anymore, [00:41:00] and new guides were waiting to come in, but that they weren't gonna show up until she did something in particular first. And I was like, oh. So it was really interesting where she just wanted to know where are my divine guides?
And there were some guides going, all right, we've done our part here. Peace out. We're passing you off to somebody else. And the new ones were going, hang on a second, there's a little work you need to do first, and then we will make ourselves known to you. And they told her specifically what she needed to do and where she needed to look for it.
And that there was a human teacher she needed to find first, who was, and actually described the teacher and said, you need to go study and get this stuff in order with this human to guide you first, and then we will come in.
Jennifer Taylor: Wow. That's, that's like fascinating. I was like,
Tava Baird: isn't that neat? And I was like, what?
You know, they, were really trying to motivate this person. So,
Jennifer Taylor: and I, I feel like [00:42:00] interestingly looping all the way back around to the number, I feel like that was part of this message too, was that there was that growth and lessons, this number of growth and lessons. And I remembered, my first inclination was.
These are uncomfortable lessons. This is a kind of growth, that you have to learn these sorts of lessons and go through this discomfort in order for the growth to happen. And it was interesting. The last thing, the one thing that stuck with me for my dreams last night was a message that said, people who receive this treatment will go backwards for a time.
They have to go back and clean up their vibration before they can move forward. Yeah. And I was like, I feel like that's exactly what was happening then with that number. And with the, all the uncomfortable, painful stuff that the ancestors were putting in front of me, that all echoed stuff that [00:43:00] had happened in a conversation earlier in the week.
It was like, all this stuff is getting all stirred up. And I think it's very much that you are gonna have to kind of go back a little bit and clean up your vibration, clean up this stuff, go deal with this all of these uncomfortable feelings and thoughts and that are really all based in false beliefs in order to go forward.
And so it, it seems to kind of echo a lot of that, you know, where the, the guides were like, Nope. And for me, I think my guides are just, they're like, we are here. But we are, we're just gonna keep pushing this stuff in front of you that you've pushed behind you, and we're just gonna keep sticking it in front of you until you go through that.
Because, and I know we've talked a lot, but about before, you have to, the more like with what Sam all was talking about, for that expansion to happen, they, some had to drop down and go back. And I [00:44:00] feel like there's this, in order for me to expand further in one direction, I have to go back and put down more stuff in order to be lighter and able to then, hold this energy that's coming through.
Tava Baird: Really Cool. I'm feeling like a song. What do you think?
Jennifer Taylor: Yes. speaking of nudging, I've been getting that nudging of like, you to just be quiet and sing because No, no, I think this, this has been saying, I'm like, okay, I'll,
Tava Baird: I was so excited you for you to share that story.
I just think it's really neat and, um, it's good to have our own little
Jennifer Taylor: It is, it is. And it's funny, I mean, you guys are getting this in more real time than ever because most of this realization came through yesterday. The last part of it came through this morning and then we are gonna be editing.
This podcast and getting it out [00:45:00] within 48 hours. So yeah, you all are like right on top of it with us.
Tava Baird: Absolutely.
Jennifer Taylor: Alright, so I'm gonna bring through a song again, inviting all the, the usual cast of characters to sing through me and help us to really integrate this information and bring it in and weave it into ourselves and our beliefs and our understanding in a way that helps us to know our worth and believe we are worthy of the miracles and see them and be able to do the work or face the lessons so that we can move forward.
Not like I'm asking for much.
Tava Baird: You're not, Samuel's actually are already talking to you. this should be really neat.
Jennifer Taylor: Alright.
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Tava Baird: [00:50:00] I have an interesting little thing here from Sam.
Jennifer Taylor: Oh. Um,
Tava Baird: and maybe this will lead us into our podcast for next week . I don't know. But, um, I thought this was neat.
It's almost like he's offering advice all of a sudden. what are some of the columns they used to have in newspapers where you could write in like, dear Abby and stuff like that? Mm-hmm. Maybe this is the seraphim version of Dear Abby. Um, dear Samuel, he's talking about communication. He says, "create your own miracles with your speech.
Ask for what you want. Ask kindly, but do not be shy. Say, this is what I desire. Can you provide this? What can I provide in return? [00:51:00] And then accept the answer and boundaries with grace and gratitude. This is a blessing for many. The amount of time that you hide your true feelings, intentions, and motivations in the name of politeness.
Assumptions about worth and power and social responsibility only serve to slow communication and isolate. Love openly, talk openly. Speak bravely. Do not set your first foot out the door under a cloud of anticipated judgment for who are they? To judge my friends one, one day we will all be returned to each other in that holiest of circles."
Jennifer Taylor: Wow.
Tava Baird: [00:52:00] Interesting. So as we go about our work, he's talking about how we sort of obfuscate because we're worried about what other people will say. We're worried that we're coming across too strong or that we're worried that somebody else outranks us or that we're being too blunt and he's saying we are divine.
Ask for what we want. We don't have to be pushy. We can ask kindly. We shouldn't be shy. And if they say no, we're supposed to still bless them. Accept the answer with grace, respect the boundaries, but that there's nothing wrong with us walking out the door in the morning and saying, I'm going to ask and I'm gonna do it gracefully, but I'm going to raise my voice and ask.
And that in doing so, it actually relieves the people that we're talking to of having to figure out [00:53:00] our motivations because we are being clean and open and it saves. All of that energy, and I'm like, oh my God, I so need to work on this.
Jennifer Taylor: And setting it up to be reciprocal too, of like, what sort of blessings can I bring to you?
these are the ones that I'm asking for. You know, clarity
Tava Baird: and truth, huh? Well, perhaps this will be a topic for next week? .
Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. I am really interested and I have to tell you, something really wild happened at the end of that song.
Tava Baird: That song was gorgeous.
Jennifer Taylor: The last few notes, there was this like chorus ringing around me. It sounded like maybe like harp strings resonating, like vibrating to where I kept thinking, is there some part of my body that's touching the mono cord? That, but it sounded like all of these [00:54:00] strings all vibrating, but they were all perfectly tuned to each other.
But It was a really broad range musically, like tonally, you know, from, high notes all the way down to low notes, And it was all really beautiful and resonant.
And it sounded like there were all these string instruments all the way around me, and all of their strings were just vibrating and making song, not that they were being played. Like, it didn't sound like, what it would sound like if you were bowing a violin or you were plucking a string, but it was like they were all vibrating on their own spontaneously.
Just the way, 'cause I could hear the gong singing with me.
Tava Baird: Yes. And
Jennifer Taylor: kind of the same way how like the gong sings with me in a way that you can't really replicate because you would have to strike the gong with something in order to get it to make that sound. And there's none of the striking sound, there's just [00:55:00] the resonating sound.
And it was like that only all the way around me. There were these strings that were vibrating and when I was done, I opened my eyes and I was in a different part of the room than I thought I was in, and I'm looking around trying to see.
What instruments were around me, Like it was so clear that I was actually looking for physical instruments that maybe I'd forgotten were there and trying to figure out how they could be. But they weren't there. And the mono cord was behind me and only has, you know, three notes.
And they're all the same. They're all C. Like, it's just three octaves of C. And it gave me full body tingles feeling of like, presence. It was really wild. But I was thinking, I wonder, if anybody else could hear that or if it's just something that I was hearing.
Tava Baird: Samuel Mayel says she hears Angel song.
Jennifer Taylor: Oh, nice. I
Tava Baird: are you saying there's like, he says, a gathering. [00:56:00] A gathering of them.
Jennifer Taylor: So there was a gathering of angels around me singing,
Tava Baird: gathering of angelic vibration around you singing.
Jennifer Taylor: I tell you, Angel song. Really beautiful.
It was, it felt like that. And yet because it felt so clearly like. if I'd opened my eyes and been surrounded by instrument strings all the way around and like being inside a giant harp that was playing itself.
Tava Baird: Yes. he's sang Angel, she hears Angel song.
Jennifer Taylor: Wow. Well that's really exciting.
Tava Baird: Pretty interesting.
Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. Wow. Oh my
Tava Baird: goodness.
Jennifer Taylor: Well, I am sure that this has ended up being two, episodes, so I am really grateful for everybody, for hanging in there with us and following us on all of these journeys and through all of these different [00:57:00] kinds of stories that somehow seemed to kind of weave together.
And so, may step forward into your week exactly the way Samiah was suggesting, and without that cloud over your first footsteps outside and knowing that you're worthy of it and that you're supported and asking with clarity and kindness for what you want.
Tava Baird: Yes. Thank you so much for listening. Let's all go out there and make some miracles.
Jennifer Taylor: Amen.
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