Walking Blind- Embracing Trust and Awakening Your Senses

In this transformative episode, Samael shares wisdom on a variety of topics, beginning with how to reawaken our senses and find magic in the mundane.  Jennifer Taylor shares an unexpected and intimate experience of walking blind with the angelic guidance of Samael, demonstrating profound power of trusting your guides.  Discover the power of presence, the hidden wisdom of intuitive connections, and the incredible beauty that lies beyond sight or other dominant senses. Tava shares a story illustrating ways we can find the flow in chaotic and otherwise overwhelming situations while also embracing deeper, more meaningful interactions. This episode will inspire you to challenge your assumptions and immerse in life's unfolding mysteries with renewed wonder.

Resources and Links:

Animal Reiki Certification Class Saturdays in October- registration open see more: 

              https://www.willowridgereiki.com/icrt-animal-reiki-i-ii

Holy Fire Reiki Master Certification - including how to Heal Spirit Attachments - starts Jan 10, registration open - read more: 

              https://www.willowridgereiki.com/usui-holy-fire-reiki-master

Lilith and the Lost City classes with Tava: 

Blue Ball Inn Oct 12th 1- 4:30pm

The Simple Life - Frederick MD, Nov 16th 12 - 2:30pm 

buy tickets here: https://www.tavabaird.com/classes

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Transcript

Walking Blind

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Jennifer Taylor: Hello Gente. Hello. Tava Baird. I am so excited to be back with you Podcasting. 

Tava Baird: I know. I feel like it's been, it has been a while. Yeah, I know. It's, 

Jennifer Taylor: yeah, it's like for everyone else there has been no, break in continuity. But for us, we recorded, I guess it's been two weeks since we've recorded a podcast, which feels like an eternity for me.

Tava Baird: Absolutely. And so we put out a part one of a podcast, but then we had, the fantastic Jason Mankey on for an interview and then part two came out. And in that time. In those weeks around that time you went on retreat? I went to teach at Free Spirit gathering. I went to a fantasy conference. I've been at the Blue Ball in a ridiculous amount.

You bless your heart. Have been doing all the heavy lifting podcast editing [00:01:00] wise, but I don't know what I would do if you hadn't. So thank you. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh, no worries. Well, I am really excited. I'll tell people that right before, Tava was telling me that she has a big announcement and we decided to wait and not have any conversation beforehand so that you guys would get to hear it all the, in the very first telling.

So I'm very excited about that. Should we hear the announcement and then sing or should we Yeah, probably. Because I imagine the singing's gonna take us maybe into a whole different way if singing is 

Tava Baird: gonna take us. I have a feeling into a whole nother realm. So this is scheduling, which is more of 

an earthly this realm pursuit. so as a lot of, you know, I teach classes and I've been teaching classes all over the area and, but at the same time I am also always learning and my main teacher is of course Samuel. And we have been spending a tremendous amount of time, lately of him really [00:02:00] buckling down and teaching me some.

Absolutely amazing things. And as a result of this, I have decided to retire several of the classes that I've been teaching for years and years and years and move them off of my schedule. So some of those, if you were out at the Blue Ball in this weekend, you came to the last Tea Leaf reading and Jars scrying class that I intend to do.

That is of course, that, class is now going to be taught by another wonderful witch, who volunteers out at the Inn, Kathy Poston. but the reason that I have been retiring some classes is to make room for a brand new class. And I already have two locations, dates and times where it will happen. So the class is called Lilith and the Lost City.

And it, the first time it will be held will be at the Blue Ball Inn [00:03:00] on October 12th from one to 4:30 PM And then a slightly shorter version of it will be held in Frederick, Maryland on November 16th from 12 to two 30. I'm going to be teaching you the philosophy and beginning practices behind the magic and philosophies that Samuel and Lilith use.

Nice. 

Jennifer Taylor: So this is 

Tava Baird: some really interesting stuff. so if you are into Lilith or you enjoy the time you've spent with Sam ael on the podcast, your first opportunity will be at the Blue Ball Inn on October 12th to come out and here, basically we're doing introductory day magic, DAE.

and you'll find out all about what that is, and it is an incredibly inclusive and loving, magical system, [00:04:00] but it is also hella rebellious. So, um, anyway, that's what I wanted to announce, and you can sign up for these classes on tava bear.com under events. 

Jennifer Taylor: Wow, I am so excited. I was thinking, I was instantly going, okay, what am I doing on that day?

What, you know, can I be there? And then I realized I'm teaching an animal reiki class that will be going from nine to one. So I was like, oh, I can't get there. But I know there was another one later. So I'm gonna, yes, 

Tava Baird: the November 16th month on a Sunday up at The Simple Life, which is a lovely, lovely metaphysic store in Frederick, Maryland on Patrick Street.

I'm gonna be doing the class there from 12 to two 30. And then for the first time after that, I will be doing in-person bone readings at the store afterwards for two hours. So there'll be some slots. Oh, nice. If you wanna go and get a bone reading as well. 

Jennifer Taylor: I've heard so many amazing stories of bone readings that you have done.

Like [00:05:00] it is just, absolutely incredible. I highly recommend it for anybody who is interested. and I have actually one little thing, the. I do have, again, that animal reiki class for anybody who has Reiki one and two. That's coming up in October on Saturdays from nine to one. and then I actually finally put an, a Reiki masterclass on the schedule.

So January, starting January 10th, 2026, there will be four hours a week for six weeks. you'll get to learn, reiki masters. So if you have Reiki one and two from any other lineage, you can, any lineage that has the UI reiki symbols, you can sign up for this class. And it is amazing and there's a really incredible, 

System for clearing, that I know we've had an entire podcast on one way of clearing the type of clearing that I did that Samuel said, for Tava to call me [00:06:00] afterwards and have me clear her. I'll be teaching that that's a big part of this class. And it is Oh wow. Absolutely incredible. Completely changed our lives and the life of, one of my daughters.

So I highly recommend it, and that's something that is, specific to Holy Fire Reiki master. but if you're interested, you can go to the website, willow ridge reiki.com and find out all the information. And also feel free to contact me, but I'm really excited to have that actually on the books.

I'm so bad about getting things on the calendar and I actually it out. Congratulations. Enough time that people could actually plan ahead for it. So I wanted to be sure, and since I actually got it on the calendar. Give people time to know about it and think about that too. 

Tava Baird: Congratulations.

Congratulations. So y'all have a lot of education you can do if you want to. There's so many things to learn. There's lots to learn. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh, and I'm so excited about this new form of magic. [00:07:00] And I mean, it sounds just amazing. 

Tava Baird: I am, I don't even know where the last several weeks have gone because there has been, he's showing me different methods of reading bones according to, like Dae philosophy.

He's showing me magical systems, popit stuff, rituals. There's, going to be a little Lilith book coming out with all of this in it. I am, I'm not getting a lot of sleep, but boy, boy, are things expanding. 

Well, it's really interesting to me. I have already a song that is repeating in my head, and the interesting thing is I'm not sure of its origin. Like I'm not sure if it's Michael that's sending it. I'm not sure if it's me. I'm not sure if it's my ancestors, but it feels. Clear and good and solid.

Jennifer Taylor: So, um, I'll be interested to [00:08:00] see if, Sam Oil has anything to add as to who it is that is coming through this morning. 

Tava Baird: I cannot wait. I love that you're already locked and loaded all of a sudden. Like, they can't wait or you can't wait. Yeah. Or somebody can't wait to bring it. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yes. Someone out there, something cannot wait.

yeah, it's very lively and upbeat. So, yeah. let's see what happens. 

Tava Baird: All right, I'm gonna go mute. Here we go. 

Jennifer Taylor: Alright.[00:09:00] [00:10:00] [00:11:00] Oh boy. I've seen you writing quite a bit. Be chatty again today. Yay. Very chatty. My favorite kind of 

Tava Baird: seraphim. Yeah, I think the chatty seraphim, if we ever open a pub, [00:12:00] I think that's what it needs to be called. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yes, the 

Tava Baird: Chatty Seraphim Open. Mike Knight for Michael and Gente on Alternate Thursdays, you know?

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So here we have, uh, Sam Miles's input. I loved that music and he did as well. Oh, good. It apparently reminded, it, apparently reminded him of something. So I don't think it came from him unless he orchestrated that. I'm guessing this might be a Michael or one of our others. Uh, maybe even I'm, I'm thinking based on this.

It might be Michael, but I'll read it and let you see what you think. So he says "The cave, the return to a realm most holy. The wind moves outside and water [00:13:00] trickles outside the walls. Voices raise song. Possibility. Cleansing. When you arrive in a new place, in a new country, in a new home, you approach it bathed in water and wonder scrubbed clean in parts of your consciousness, not just for the potential dangers and delights.

It may hold, but for the reimagining and rebirth of the self. In your days, you retrace steps many times, the market, the school, the path from door to hearth. And with each retreading, your awareness of them as they are fades, your awareness of the self in the environment morphs into habit. The mind dulls let us discuss [00:14:00] remedies at the changing of the seasons."

So I believe the music reminded him of arriving somewhere, the cave in a holy realm, and he's describing hearing the wind moving outside the mouth of the cave and the water coming down the walls. And they're singing outside with this idea that he's going to step out and be welcomed that this is. I'm guessing a portal or a gateway of some sort between worlds, and then he's talking about, have you ever been on an airplane and you land in a foreign country if you've never been there before?

When you stand up to get your luggage, there's this excitement in your stomach, and the excitement isn't just [00:15:00]for what you're going to see in that country or who you're going to visit or what you're going to discover, or what you may have to navigate. It's a whole different aspect that opens up in your mind that says, I am in a new place and I have the ability to reinvent myself in relation to this place.

All of the habits and everybody that I know, and all the places that I go have been left behind, at least temporarily. I can potentially walk off this plane and give people a different name for myself. I can say I do different things that people might call me out on at home. Oh, you don't do that, right? I have the possibility, the choice to perhaps relate to things in a new way.

And so this concept of travel, of moving through gates and portals allows an [00:16:00] incredible opportunity for reinvention and rebirth. But when we're in our normal routines, we're going to the same grocery store, we're going to the same gas station, we're going to the same restaurant for lunch. Over time, they become so habitual that we fail to see them.

There's a certain, if you've ever gone back to the place you've grown up that you grew up in and you haven't been back in years, your brain partially expects your childhood home to look the same. And the school you went to look the same and all the same stores that you went to and the same parks that they're all there.

And when you get back and discover that someone's cut down the tree that used to be in your front yard or that the store you used to visit is no longer in business, there's this jarring, 

but yeah, as we go to these same places and we start to learn where things are, it's part of what the human [00:17:00] brain does.

It creates shortcuts so that you don't have to be hyper aware of everything around you all the time. But at the same point, there's a comfort with that, those habits, but. We also often lose track of what the places that we are in and the people that we are interacting with, how they are actually changing our awareness starts to dull.

And so he's wanting to draw our attention to this, I believe, and talk about perhaps as our seasons change, an opportunity to shake this up a little bit. 

Jennifer Taylor: I, I think that's really beautiful and I, so there, there are a couple things that I realize I'm distracted by thinking about that's stopping me from being able to dive into that because I was thinking about the song and what I did for the song and I was about to start singing and then I thought.[00:18:00]

No, I kept feeling this looking around what else? You know, what do I need to, to pick up? And I picked up the two, like two of the three big stones that I got from the mountain in Vermont. Oh. And the new seed chime that we got up there that I had taken and taken to this river that was very sacred to us there.

And asked the river to attune that instrument to the energy of the river. So that when I use that instrument, it will bring through that energy and it will be able to, be attuned to that and pass that on. And it was interesting that I ended up with one of the stones in a certain place on the floor and the other one in my left hand, and then the water.

So I had like the makings of the cave. Oh my gosh. She did. And the energy of the water. [00:19:00] Yep. And the singing all together, which I found really interesting when he was describing it, I was thinking, well, I had all of the elements of that that I was using in that song. And it was funny because the song wasn't a song that felt to me to be kind of connected to the ancestors and the spirits of the land necessarily there when it first came through.

But I felt like I needed these things. They were an important part. the other thing that occurred to me was when he said The cave a long time ago, I painted a painting and he said, something like it is the entrance to the crystal cave. 

Tava Baird: Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that. And he was 

Jennifer Taylor: saying something about it being important and that to use it wisely.

And I've never really done anything with a painting other than hang it and, send you pictures of it. But when he said something about the [00:20:00] cave, the first thing I thought was, he's mentioned a cave to us before, but I really had no understanding of what the crystal cave was. 

Tava Baird: well maybe we're gonna have to chat with him about this cave today.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. I was like, okay, there is something additional that feels like it may be coming from this cave. And yeah, if he would like to share with us where the song came from, I would love that too. 

Tava Baird: It's really neat to me, like, I'm so glad I'm on this journey with you because you remember things that he said that I do not, you know, like there's certain things that stick in both of our minds and, 

Yeah, that's right. He totally did say something about a crystal cake and it gentle listeners, if you haven't figured this out by now, Samuel is the king of, let me mention something and then let me not mention it again for another 18 months and then suddenly [00:21:00] start talking about it as the, though there's been no break in our conversation.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, which is amazing though too. It's funny actually, as I was sitting down before this, I was saying to myself, I was like, I feel like I need to just kind of stop and give Sam some kudos because I was reading last night some of the early chapters of the book, two of Samuel and it was really interesting 'cause I remember when these things happened.

I remember you telling me about them and what he said and it's really fascinating. To me, how incredibly skillful he is at being able to know exactly the right amount of information to give us at any given time that enough to make us go, oh my goodness. And like nearly explode our minds, but not enough to just get us going in a certain direction, expand us the amount that we can [00:22:00] handle that sometimes feels like it's almost more than we can handle, but to know exactly when to drop this little piece of information.

It is like he just plants these seeds along the way and then allows them time to germinate. And then we start seeing leaves and we're like, wait a minute, didn't you plant something there? Like, wasn't there something there? And it's like, oh, well now and then he will expand upon it and then all of a sudden six months later we're like.

It's bearing some kind of fruit. What is this? What's going on? or he'll just start talking about, let's notice the fruit that's over here on this thing from the plant that I mentioned six months ago from the seed that I planted six months before that. And I was just, thinking about him and how just masterfully and beautifully and creatively and perfectly, he manages to guide [00:23:00] us through things that if he had told us at the beginning where we were going, we couldn't have done it or we couldn't have handled it, or we wouldn't have understood it enough to even know what he was talking about.

But it's like he guides us. Somebody described the way that the universe, I think it was, Esther Hicks, who channels Abraham. And she was saying that, if we just listen to our guides, that there could be this really elaborate, series of obstacles and all of these things in our way.

Like if we imagine trying to get from one side of something to the other, but there are walls and there are thorns and there are giant gaping holes in the ground and there's all these things but we can't see them. And if we walk straight up at it, we would be like, oh my gosh, I can't do this.

But our guides, if we listen, they'll just guide us, be like, Hey, maybe just turn to the right here a little bit and then we'll turn and we'll maybe discover something and then they'll be like, Hey, [00:24:00] maybe let's just. Go this way? Maybe just take us one step forward. All right. Now let's pause for a minute.

And what we can't see is that there are all these massive pitfalls, all these things around us that we are avoiding because yeah, we're following their very carefully laid path that allows us to move through and past all kinds of things that would've been major obstacles for us that we would've gotten stuck on and hung up on.

But because of the way that it's been so carefully crafted this path. That we're able to move around them without even sometimes recognizing they're there. And I was thinking, that is exactly what Sam does for us. And so, yeah, this was a perfect opportunity to give him the kudos that I was thinking, man, I, it is really amazing that he is managed to be guiding us through all of these things of that were major, that, you know, we've, I think, tried in different ways throughout our lives to confront and to break down and [00:25:00] it was just, it was too much and it was kind of too in our face.

And he pushes at the right moments and he expanded the right moments, and he also tends to give us just the right piece at the right moment to help make sure that we were able to continue. And it is just amazing. So thank you, Samuel. You're freaking awesome. 

Tava Baird: He, I have a, a little something back from him that he was, as he was listening and I was listening, he said," I am a joyful reaper singer.

Your wonder provides growth. I pull the tail on the binding and watch the understanding unfold. It is a blessing to guide. "

Jennifer Taylor: Very nice. So I 

Tava Baird: think that's his way of saying thank you.

I like the, uh, joyful reaper. You know, you think about the groom Reaper, right? Yeah. He's the joyful Reaper's. A joyful 

Jennifer Taylor: reaper. 

Tava Baird: I'm picturing him in sneakers [00:26:00] just like bouncing along. Maybe not. Yeah. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. I'm not seeing that. 

Tava Baird: No, no. Oh my goodness. this crystal cave thing. I am. Oh, no, just what, guess what?

I just realized. There's a crystal cave in the books I write. The Morgans cave. Oh. I 

Jennifer Taylor: think that dawned on me when I started reading them. I was like, oh my gosh, this is a crystal cave. 

Tava Baird: Like, I don't know if it's the same one but that he's referring to, but there is, there's that huge cave that has the three ravens on the ceiling and there's crystal sticking out of all the walls.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. Inside the cave. And it's a gate. I think I remember that. 

Tava Baird: Yes. It's a portal to ferry in the book. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh, interesting. 

Tava Baird: Oh, okay. This is getting really interesting. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. '

Tava Baird: cause I'm wondering if the cave talking about, 'cause he just described it or [00:27:00] you know, it's a place of arriving. I'm wondering if these are all tied together.

Gosh darn it. Samuel. 

Jennifer Taylor: Wow. 

Tava Baird: Yep. 

Jennifer Taylor: That's interesting. So I guess since he mentioned the cave, but he also told us what he wanted us to unpack. I suppose we should start there and then we'll go back and be like, okay, did we talk about it enough that we can get some answers about this too? 

Tava Baird: So, okay.

So we wanna ask him about remedies for walking blind. Um, that's what I'm gonna call it. Walking, when you start Walking Blind through your life. we wanna do that before we ask him about Crystal Cave stuff. 

Jennifer Taylor: Um, and we can see it seems like since he, since that was what he was telling us to talk about, maybe we should unpack that a little bit, um, before we return to the crystal Cave, although he mentioned the Crystal Cave at the beginning too, so, 

Tava Baird: yes.

Now he says, may I trade for a song singer? Oh, he's, he's, [00:28:00] he knows we haven't making a trade 

Jennifer Taylor: now. 

Tava Baird: I know we clearly haven't done this in two weeks. I think he's a little low on, uh, on Gente singing. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. He wants to know if he will sing and then he will talk a little bit more about Walking Blind.

Yeah, absolutely. You've gotta be careful. He's gonna get us to a situation where you're singing for two hours 

Jennifer Taylor: straight. Um, is there any guidance, is there anything he would like me to bring through for the singing? I wanna make sure my end of the trade is definitely holding up its side.

Tava Baird: Oh, hang on a second. I have a message directly for you coming through.

Oh, 

Jennifer Taylor: this is gonna be good.

Tava Baird: starting to think I'm gonna need a therapist at the end of this episode. Oh my goodness. Okay. So I wrote down just 'cause I, I tend to give [00:29:00] different sections of. notes as they come through titles so I can find them later. And so I had just written down Walking Blind, and then you asked what you needed to bring through and this is what he's saying to you.

"We will walk together, singer. Sometimes you feel as if you are walking blind towards the Temple of Song. Let us set our feet on the path together and I will show you the way as you sing us along." So I think this trade is what he wants. It's not so much of a you pay me in song and I give you information.

He wants you to imagine as you sing that the two of you are walking down a path and he is guiding you forward and you are singing as you walk next to him. And that is going to bring through. The [00:30:00] next part about Walking Blind. 

Jennifer Taylor: That sounds wonderful. 

Tava Baird: This is gonna be absolutely 

Jennifer Taylor: wonderful. 

Tava Baird: So welcome to doing your own guided meditation while singing, I guess.

Jennifer Taylor: Alright, so we, uh, we will learn about Walking Blind by Walking Blind with and Guide Blind. 

Tava Baird: Woo. And Okay. I will get down the words of what he wants to say to you on your journey as you create the space for them with song. 

Jennifer Taylor: Okay. Well, this is 

Tava Baird: getting weird, man. Okay. 

Jennifer Taylor: All right.

Tava Baird: Oh, one last thing he said. Sorry.

He says, as you are walking, imagine that your hand is on his forearm and his hand is over yours like he's guiding you like you can't see. You know, when someone can't see you sort of hold onto them, right? So you're supposed to imagine your [00:31:00] hand on his forearm and he will put his other hand over yours to guide you forward as you sing.

Jennifer Taylor: Okay? It, it feels like my right hand. Is that, does it matter? Sideways? 

Tava Baird: He says, I walk on the left, 

Jennifer Taylor: he walks on the left. I was thinking he, the whole left side pat. I was like, okay. That's really interesting because that the right side would feel very much more solid and known and the left side feels more walking blind, which is interesting.

The idea of leading with my left, having my left hand on his. his forearm. 

Tava Baird: I mean, I feel like we're going into new territory here. Usually there's a conversation between you two, but he's actually wanting you to have an experience with him live on the podcast that he is then going to narrate as you sing.[00:32:00]

Wow. Know how this is gonna work. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. and it's so weird the specifics, but I'm glad that I asked because I also, I would've been using my right and it should be my left. I'm wondering, is my arm sort of, wrapped around underneath his arm or resting?

Does that make sense? He 

Tava Baird: says you are standing to the right of him. He is on your left. And that your hand is across your body on his arm, and then he will put his left hand over your right. 

Jennifer Taylor: So I am using my right hand, but I'm reaching across my body, resting it on his right arm. Yes. And his left hand is on my right hand.

Tava Baird: So you're turned slightly towards him and he's going to walk you forward. 

Jennifer Taylor: Wow. Okay. Well, I'm glad I asked because that is not at all [00:33:00] how I, you were gonna go up and over, set that up. 

Tava Baird: Well, he, he says he thinks you'll feel safer that way, but he also says, do what you wish. 

Jennifer Taylor: Well, that he thinks, well, I think it's great.

I figure, you know, he knows how this is gonna go. And so leading, having my hands there Sounds great. Okay. Um, 

Tava Baird: not like we're gonna ask you to do a million things at once, but can you please sing, meditate, uh, you know, like 

Jennifer Taylor: these things, which actually works fine for me, I think because singing is how I journey best.

So I, like shamanic journey best when I'm singing and moving. So I think that's probably actually more helpful than saying like, sit there and do this. singing is probably a very good element for me to add. 

Tava Baird: Cannot wait to see what this looks like.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. What was it? I think it was even maybe the last one where it was, say I was an angelic [00:34:00]experiment, so this is. We're just continuing that theme now. 

Tava Baird: You doing stuff and walking around and I'm just sitting here with my notebook and my coffee mug, like it's all good. 

Jennifer Taylor: Alright. You're like, man, I can't wait to write to see what happens.

Oh, I can't wait to see what happens. Alright, so I will be holding on to Sam Mayel and walking Blind in complete and utter faith. 

Tava Baird: Alright, I'm gonna turn off my sound. 

Jennifer Taylor: Alright.

Tava Baird: [00:35:00] [00:36:00] [00:37:00] [00:38:00] So how was that? I, 

Jennifer Taylor: that was really interesting. It was, it was different. So I, I realized logistically. It's a very small space that I'm in with a lot of instruments and a lot of things on the ground. But I felt like I needed to be actually physically walking and moving, not just imagining. so we started off and I'm going and I'm walking and then I was like, oh, we're [00:39:00]turning.

Well, I hadn't really thought of it that way. I thought, you know, we're just walking straight, forward. And then I got the sense of, okay, well we're turning this way. And it was like, no, you need to listen to me and let me lead. And it really cracked me up. 'cause if you talk to my husband, I'm terrible at letting him lead, like dancing.

It's like. I know what I want us to do. I know what the next move, like, let's do this, let's do that. And he just laughs. He's like, I don't even try, just lets me like lead. and so there was this sense of like, okay, I've got to really surrender the sense of control in this and let him lead because he's the one that can see.

And so if he's the one that can see the idea that like I needed just to calm down and focus in more and tune in more to him, then my thoughts, my [00:40:00] awareness of the environment where I happen to know there's the seed chimes are laying in the floor, you know, slightly to one side or whatever.

so I started kind of trying to lean into that more and more to lean into the. Okay, this is where he is. I think he's leaning us more to the right, and then it seemed like he kind of made it into a little bit more of a dance, like as I started giving into the, okay, I'm really just letting, I'm letting you lead.

Not that I was doing a great job of it by any means, but it was like, as I could lean into it, it became a little bit more playful and you know, we were kind of sort of swaying back and forth some, or kind of turning in a little circle or doing more playful kinds of things. And I realized the more I just had faith and the more I tuned in and followed, the more fun it was.

The more we could do, you know, the [00:41:00] more ground could be covered. And then nearing the end. We were covering, it felt like a lot more ground, like sort of skipping and dancing and moving all around in all these different, ways as opposed to just sort of walking carefully one step at a time. And so that was really interesting to me to have that, yeah, I need to lean in.

And then it's not this really tense kind of feeling of like, okay, feeling my way, this way and that way. And I realized that I was moving and turning more in the room and I kind of thought that I knew where I was and where things were on the floor, but I'd been turned around enough that I actually didn't.

Yeah. And so it was kind of amazing that, I mean, I have microphone stands sticking out. I have bowls, I have gongs, I have chairs, I have seed things, I have stuff just sort of everywhere around, but was moving around and didn't even come close. Or as far as I know, I don't know. I mean, but I didn't [00:42:00] feel or touch anything else in the environment.

And there was a point near the end where I felt like it was where he was like, okay, I think, for the sake of the podcast, we should wrap this up 'cause I was like, I think I could do this all day. this is getting to be really fun. and I realized too, I was not aware hardly even of the song that I was singing that was just happening.

As I was trying to just really focus on him and where he was moving and how I was gonna follow that. And so there was a moment when it was like, okay, I think this is probably enough for demonstration purposes. So people aren't listening to this all day. And it seemed like he came in front of me and oh, and now I wish I could remember exactly what he said, but it felt like it was something like, you see, when we guide you, all you have to do is follow.

he told me to kind of turn around and look back at where he had just led me through. And I felt like there was that sense of kind of what I had [00:43:00] described earlier , like these big sharp poking up. Like I don't, I can never remember sag mites or slic types, the one coming up from the ground, like these really sharp pokey things and various kinds of stuff.

And it was like. You know, we just danced our way through all of these things because you were just in trust and just leaned in and followed me. And it felt like he had his arms around me and I had my hands on his hands. And it was like, wow. Like just standing there looking back at all of it and it was like, this is how I can be.

So that was, that was amazing. Oh hun. 

Tava Baird: Now I'm tearing up watching you tear up. 

Jennifer Taylor: So thank you Samael was 

Tava Baird: very talkative while you sang, and the song was lovely by the way. It was, can't wait for you to go back and listen to it because, yeah, I can't wait to hear it it because I'm 

Jennifer Taylor: not sure I really even have any idea what it was.

Tava Baird: And I [00:44:00] really appreciate you being willing to be like, all right, let's do this thing and not like, Nope, I don't wanna fall on my ass. Um, I have two page, although sometimes I was writing very large, uh, about a page and a half message for you from that experience. 

Jennifer Taylor: Alright. Uh, 

Tava Baird: the first thing he wanted to tell you is, "I appreciate the trust" that you were willing to just stand up and go, I'm not gonna fall over a microphone.

Let's do this. Um, this is what he has to say. And I think it's, uh, alright. Here we go. "On becoming a Blind Seeress let us go inward, A journey away from the site that colors all our perceptions. How would you interpret yourself and others if you could not see. If there were no assumptions made by the visual [00:45:00] conditioning of your society, if you operate on scent, touch, taste, and the vibration of sound, this is in alignment with angelic thinking singer.

We see yet we communicate mostly in other ways. First, we feel the stars taste the spectrum of the sunset, immerse ourselves in voice, scent, our own kin

as the sun adjusts its arc. Spend time in this place and invite others." And here is where things get real gente. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh boy. This is apparently 

Tava Baird: how you invite others. "The ritual at the beginning of the Temple of Song is a chamber of sound [00:46:00]without visual distraction. In this way, inner colors may be perceived, attention turns to the form, and then formlessness.

And for a moment, you walk the cycles in a ring outside of your embodiment and become part of the rising chorus." He's talking about an experience that people are supposed to have when arriving at the Temple of Song where they are immersed in a chamber of sound free from visual distraction. So that they don't make assumptions about the people around them or where they are based on the conditioning of who they are.

So like, if you think [00:47:00] about it, we all try to be very open-minded. Well, many people try to be open-minded. I know you and I are among them, but when you walk into a space, whether it's messy or tidy, and how tidy it is, you make an assumption about what happens in that space based on the way that your visual cues jive with you.

If you grew up in a very messy space and you walk into a messy space, you may feel very comfortable in it. If you are a total neatnik where everything has to be very precise and you walk into a messy space, you may feel very discombobulated and overwhelmed based on your own. Background. When you walk into a space, there is immediate perception through the eyes, right?

We do the same thing with people. They're tall, they're short, they're, slender, they're round, they look a certain way, or [00:48:00] they don't look a certain way. They look like somebody I know or they don't look like anyone that I've ever seen, and we decide if we're comfortable or uncomfortable based on those things he is talking about at the Temple of Song, putting people in an environment where there aren't those triggers and first getting immersed in sound.

Because sound, it's very connected, right? the angels operate on sound before sight and that. the disembodied, we can't see them. So a lot of times we make up our perceptions about them. We wanna know what this goddess looks like. We wanna know what this entity looks like. And when we can't see things, it makes us very nervous.

If we don't really see much of anything, but we have an experience that is pure sound, [00:49:00] which is a very connective, force, it's going to set us on a very different path on our arrival than if we had walked in and looked at everything first. I just find that really interesting. Yeah. And then he made a note later and said, "for those here", so he's not talking about the temple of sand now, but he's talking about a similar experience if you are walking through your days blind, where you're just in your habit.

He says," take a blind walk and take note," like of what you think the world around you is like when you can't immediately judge it on site. And then he says, "if you do not have earthly vision, remove another sense. Control is an illusion. "So if you are already a person who, [00:50:00] who's you do not see, think about what is the other sense that you, you know, do you operate mostly by touch or mostly by hearing?

What is it? Try to spend some time reinterpreting your environment without that first sense coming in, and it will shake up the way the things that you see. I'm sorry, it'll not see the things that you perceive.

It is just kind of interesting. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. I mean, it, it makes sense when you think about it. You know, we get so habituated in our, thinking and our patterns and all of the things that we do. But if we have to move around, even in the same very familiar environment without, our primary sense, then we're gonna have to tune into different things about it.

You know, [00:51:00] we're gonna have to really feel into or listen, or actually, physically feel or smell our way around. You know, we're gonna have to really use, kinesthetic awareness, other kinds of things to be able to take in our environment. 

Tava Baird: Yeah. And when you can't see someone. You have to get to know them in a different way.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. You know, 

Tava Baird: you, you, you might have to touch them more. You might have to get closer. Their voice and the quality of their voice and how they sound is going to be much more important. You're going to remember what they smell like probably. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. And are, you know, like energetically, you know, I mean, we rely so much on our sight or even our other more physicalized senses that we don't stop to take in the energetic profile of the person.

Yes. Or the environment, it's easier to be [00:52:00] numbed to the, energetic awareness of it, you could probably pick up a lot more information that is kind of pertinent, you know, to the situation or to the person or whatever it is. If you were. Just interacting on an energetic level.

if you couldn't hear anything and you couldn't see anything, but you know, you're safe but you're gonna have another person coming into your, general field. what would that feel like to be introduced to a new person without use of your traditional senses?

And just know, all right, at this point we're gonna bring the person within your energy field you know, at the outer rungs of it, not like right up right on you. and just sense, what do I feel from this? What am I picking up? 

Tava Baird: It was really interesting. So I was at the blue ball in on Saturday and uh, I did a tea leaf reading class in the [00:53:00] afternoon, but then we were doing jars crying where you're basically making yourself a little crystal ball out of a clear jar, and we put different herbs and things in it, and then you set a candle behind it and you turn down the lights and you scry into the jar and the flickering light, it's the changing lights and the herbs that are in our cast shadows.

And basically you start to get a picture. Right. Well, we decided because we were in a quote unquote haunted house to take our jars up to the second floor. And so it's nine o'clock at night. It's, well, I guess we started around eight. It was pretty dark, but getting darker And spend some time and see if we got anything out of the jars.

And what was really neat, so we turned out all the lights. The second floor is always very active whenever I'm there, like I always run into things there. I ha ended up having a whole experience in this one room, but that's a different story. But afterwards [00:54:00] we were all gathered in this one bedroom kind of talking about what our experience was, if we had had an experience and what it was.

And there was one woman and she said, well, I didn't really see anything in the jar, but my entire spine got super hot and there was definitely something in the room. But you know, I didn't really see anything in the jar. And I'm thinking doesn't matter if you didn't see anything in the jar, my love, you know, there was something in the room with you.

You had a dramatic temperature change in your body. You know, and I realized I'd focused everybody too much on the jar. Like she didn't need the fricking jar. There was something in the room with her, right. That she could feel a temperature difference and a presence there. And you know, so I think there was a perception of, well, the scrying jar part was a failure, right?

And it probably was. She did not see anything. But it didn't matter if she didn't [00:55:00] see anything because she had an experience with an unseen entity in the room. But it just kind of goes to be like, we tend to go, okay, focus on this and something will happen. And so a lot of times we go, this is going to be the thing I looked at.

This is the source of whether or not this is successful. And it was just really kind of neat to see her go, oh yeah, I, I didn't see anything, but doesn't really matter. Like I, you know. Yeah. there was somebody in the room with me that I could feel. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. And I think that is such a good point.

There's so many times when we're, you know, I think probably so many people listening, you know, we're all trying to really fine tune our intuition and our listening skills and our, visual skills and various claires. And so many times we get so hung up on, well, I wanna see, you know, I wanna be able to see it.

I wanna be able to hear. [00:56:00] But there are so many more ways of knowing that. And it's interesting because I know I am guilty of the putting a hierarchy on the Claires and the sense of, you know, what I want. It's like, well, this one would be better, but fine, I can do this, or that kind of thing.

But it's really interesting to think that what Samiah was saying of the angels. Like, they're not using sight as their their primary sense. You know, they're using all of these other senses, their feeling into the vibrations.

They're doing all these things. So, you know, if, if angels are doing that, it seems like, well, that ought to be, it ought to be okay for me too, to be picking, that's a cool thing. Picking things up in these other ways. And I actually, it's funny, I, I tend to think the same thing when it comes to animal communication or communication with plants and other things in the natural world.

and I have had auditory conversations with animals and so I [00:57:00] tend to think of that as the main way that something will come in. And yet there's just this way that you can interact with something. That is beyond anything that you can really describe as a specific way of how this happened or what we were doing.

But if we give ourselves over to it, like just this morning I was at the barn and taking care of the horses and the cats and the barn cat used to be feral and is now very much wanting love, but he also he kind of lacks the manners of a house cat. You know, it's like where house cats learn, you know, you don't swat at somebody when they get mad.

You're just like, he wants you to pet him, but when you stop petting him, he might try to bite you or claw at you because he is like, no, I want you to pet me more. It's like, yeah, but people typically aren't inclined to pet you more when you've just been, scratching at them because you wanted more of what they were doing.

so he's, kind of unpredictable in those kinds of ways. but [00:58:00] very loving and I think trusts us more than anyone else. And so he had a, a tick that was engorged on one of his ears. Oh. And I thought, okay, you know, not the cat that you could pick up and go, alright, I know I can just pull this off and you're not gonna bite me or, or do something else because you have misunderstanding.

And I, I just thought, you know, we have an understanding. he trusts me and he's wanting my help. And we had this little tick spoon thing that it has, like, it looks like a little measuring spoon that has this small little V cut out of it that if you do it just right, you can actually scoop the it around the tick and just keep scooping and it will slide the tick into this little, this tight little groove.

And so you can literally like scoop it off. Right? Um, but it's not a, it still requires a, a lot of fine kind of precision to be able to do that. And he's, moving and stuff. And so I [00:59:00] thought, okay, I put on my gloves and I'm petting him and he's loving on me. And I just, I didn't have any clear understanding of what I was doing.

I didn't. Stop and be like, okay, I am gonna make a heart connection. I'm gonna envision these things coming together, then I'm gonna empty my mind. And, you know, I didn't go through any sort of steps. All I did was just, it was like, I just kind of snapped into an understanding that he can get this, he can understand that I'm trying to help him and we can work together.

And that was really all I did was just kind of step into that place. And so I'm petting him and I have the little spoon and at one point it was like, he keyed in to what I was doing, and he actually held his head there around the spoon. And it was like, he moved his head a little bit and moved in with it to where I was able to scoop and then just do a quick scoop and step away.

But he, it was [01:00:00] clear. That he got it. It was like, I get it I do feel something here. I don't like it. he could understand that I was trying to help him and that we were gonna work together. And there was no like backlash from it at all, even though I'm sure it was uncomfortable when I, actually got, pulled and got it off right.

And I had a failed attempt once before where I thought, oh, this is, you know, this is gonna be bad. But it was like, no, he came right back and he was like, all right, no, let's do this. And I feel like that's kind of, the space that we want to be in, in our awareness of things to where we don't necessarily have to go through a bunch of steps to get to that place.

But just sort of an awareness of. I can take in and just be one with the things that are around me in a new way without all the cognitive parts that try to come in. And you know, it's like we try to kind of talk our way through these things and that [01:01:00] is engaging this part of our mind to where when we just sort of feel, and not even in a sense where we're trying to focus on a sense, but just letting go.

Tava Baird (2): Yeah. There's um, something that Samuel actually says to me like. A lot of times, like for example, it's Monday morning and I taught two classes Saturday. I taught a class Sunday. I had a Zoom meeting last night. And then, I don't know what it is about Monday mornings, but it's like the Pagan community wakes up and things says, whoa, all the communication I didn't do, let's do it now.

And so I will open up my inbox and there's 20 emails, from people. And I look at the 20 emails and I go, you know, like, I've gotta get through 20 emails and I'm behind on everything else. And, I haven't had a day off yet. And Samal will always just tell me, he says, "find the flow, Umshallah", like sit down and breathe and understand that [01:02:00]everything will happen in its own time.

That everything doesn't have to happen immediately find the flow. And I, I'm thinking about what you actually just did with Sam Iel. He told you how to hold onto him. He started to walk and I'm sure the entire time he wasn't go saying to you, put one foot in front of the other, put one foot, oh no, go to the left.

Oh blah. You found the flow with him where you just felt like you were dancing and that you let him guide and he was going to navigate around what needed to be navigated around in his own time. this is interesting. Another little story. This morning I had to take my dog down to the vet for shots , which she hates, but you know, it was heartworm test and Lyme disease vaccination day and my husband and I went down and we go to a really busy [01:03:00] vet's office there.

It's always busy and when you go into their front lobby, it is literally just phones ringing off the hook, nonstop and lines of people and like it. Makes me anxious just watching the people at the reception desk trying to handle everything. Well, this morning we got down there and there was one lady working in the reception desk and usually they have at least two.

And I'm watching like, she's got two calls on hold. There's two more calls coming in. She's three people in front of her that need to be checked in. Another person who didn't understand their diagnosis and was asking her even though she, you know, like she is not the vet or the vet tech, so she has to get someone to help there.

And then the, like a delivery came in the door and I was just watching her try to navigate this and it was everything in my power not to step behind the vet's office, start an answering phones for her because I just felt like, but what [01:04:00] was amazing was she never, she didn't get grumpy. She was so pleasant and kind and she just kept going so.

A half an hour later when my dog was done, my husband took my dog outside and I was, going up to pay her. And I said to her, I have to ask you, how do you do this job? Like, what is your secret? Because just watching you do your job for 15 minutes made me feel like I need a nap. You know, like, what?

How do you handle, like rings going off all around you and a line of people and other people coming through, and techs coming up to the front when you are here by yourself. And she stopped and she looked at me and she said, I have to tell you, I used to have crippling anxiety. She said, when I first worked in this office, I could be out here about an hour, and [01:05:00] then I wanted to climb under the desk or go into one of the exam rooms and shut the door and just get into a.

And she said, my grandmother taught me that it's always polite to make eye contact with people as soon as they enter a room. But I realized that I couldn't do that here because if you make eye contact with someone, they think it's go time. Right? They think they're next. Like it's, oh, it's 

Jennifer Taylor: it's time for me.

Tava Baird: Yeah. And she said, I don't wanna be impolite. But on the other hand, I can't interact with every single person. All I can do is take the next person in line and when I have them hold them and give them everything I've thought, and they are the only person that exists for me at that point. Whether it's the person I'm checking out or the person I'm checking in, or the person on the phone when everything else is just going to have to be in its time.

And she said, [01:06:00] I do go home some days and wonder am I good at my job? Wow. And I said, I've watched you for the last 15 minutes. You are phenomenal at your job. And she said, I had to train something that was supposed to be polite out of me because I realized in making eye contact with people, I was then disappointing them immediately.

What? It wasn't their turn. She said, but I would not have been able to do the job if I held to sort of those standards of communication. And so she was doing an amazing job at this desk and she wasn't losing herself doing it. And I got out, I went out and I got in the car and I thought, how many things have I attempted to do at certain points where I could have been successful at it?

And I could have given everybody the care they needed had I been willing to sort [01:07:00] of put aside. What their perception was and what my perception was. You know, she was willing to set aside this idea of, I'm gonna be a rude person if I don't make eye contact with everyone who walks in the door. She had to break herself of that, but once she did, everybody feels cared for, even though it takes a few extra minutes.

And that just kind of adjusted my whole world. She has found a flow of how to do that job that works, and I'm like, yeah, sometimes we've just gotta set aside the way we always do things to find the flow. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, I absolutely love that there is so much wisdom in so many of the aspects of what you were just describing, just taking that one next thing and just focusing on that, you know, in that.

She's not focusing on the fact that she has, four [01:08:00] calls coming through at once. She has three people lined up next to her. She has another client. She can just focus on each person in that moment. And, is also in that moment not thinking about, I have four more hours worth of appointments coming.

But being present in that moment, in each moment with that person and holding that moment for that person, that's really a beautiful thing. And, if , we walk through our lives then that way, if we can be in each moment and really fully present with it, you know, washing the dishes, we can smell the scent of the dish soap and be, you know, aware of the water that's flowing at the time.

You know, if we could be. Do just what she was doing with each client, with each kind of task, each step throughout the the day. We would probably be a lot [01:09:00] less blind to everything that's there too, you know, because in that moment she's really taking in who the person is, what their needs are, how she can be available, to them, what she can do.

And in that same way, if we can go through our day that way of, wow, look at where I am at this spot on the highway that I drive all the time. Like, wow, that tree is amazing. I hadn't realized how beautiful it is blooming. Or, those leaves are starting to shift and giving each thing a level of attention that we don't normally give.

Uh, it sounds like a very nice way to go 

Tava Baird: through the day. It's, it's mindfulness, it's, you know, basically this woman working at the vet's office is a zen master, right? Yeah. She figured out how to do it, but the person walking in the door, unless they're an emergency, they don't exist in that moment yet she is with the person in front of her that needs care.[01:10:00]

And I mean, she was incredible. And then I started thinking about, you know, you were giving Samuel kudos earlier. That is very much the way that he exists. It is whatever he is talking about in that moment or whatever he's listening to in that moment is the most important thing you know. Does he have moments where he thinks about other things?

I'm sure he does. You know, like I'm sure there are times when he thinks, where am I going next? Or where was I just, and he has time for reflection, but that incredible sense of calm. That I feel around him all the time. It's because wherever he is, even if he's in multiple places, 'cause we know he can do that, um, wherever he is, there is a part of him that is fully present there.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. And 

Tava Baird: so, even though I know he works with people all over the world, and I'm certain not on this world as well, [01:11:00] whenever he's speaking to me, I feel like I have his undivided attention and that makes me want to learn. Right. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. And the level of presence that he brings and it does, it makes you feel also, seen, fully seen, fully heard, fully, appreciated and taken in.

It's like he's doing. like what she was saying, you know, like really holding that space for you and that moment to where nothing else, it seems as though nothing else exists in that moment. And it does, and there's, there is, there's this incredible calm and peace that comes from the idea that, someone is really fully just present with you, even if they're not doing anything.

So many times, you know, you'll say, , he's just been with me today, or he just came and sat at the end of the bed and, just bringing his full presence into the moment [01:12:00] with you brings an incredible amount of healing just in itself. 

Tava Baird: Yeah. I'm now realizing that, you know, sometimes I'm teaching a class or I'm at a market or whatever, and I have this perception that everyone else is in a rush and that I'm not fast enough.

And so I'm trying to bag this up while answering this question while making change, while forgetting to eat, while whatever it is. And what I need to do instead is whoever I'm speaking to, they are it. And so instead of giving 10 people fragments of an experience and fragments of a connection, instead the ones who are meant where we are meant to speak to each other, at that point we will have a full connection.

And the other ones where we're not meant to speak to each other, at that point, we'll probably cross paths again. We'll do [01:13:00] it then. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. I was sitting here and it really sank in the sense that the greatest gift that we have is our presence and really bringing our full presence.

To wherever we are physically, geographically, to whatever interaction we're in, to whatever thing that we are observing. that's really the greatest gift that we can bring, we can do. And when we do that, we benefit from it as well because when we are fully present, we pick up on all kinds of things that we would not have picked up on before.

we hear things, we see things, we smell things, we feel things that we wouldn't have felt 10 seconds before in the same spot until we really brought our full presence into that space. 

Tava Baird: And even if you think back to great Grandpa Lyle, right? Great Grandpa Lyle didn't really care what [01:14:00] objects of his, you might still have.

He wanted your presence and time. He wanted to go down and in the garden with you when that. That has stuck with me so strongly. I was speaking to some people at the Inn, this weekend about deceased loved ones who had passed on, and some people were very, very worried about what happened to their things or what happened to their house or all of these sort of earthly concerns.

And I said, if you put that aside, do you talk to them? That's what they want. They want you to feel their presence and them to feel yours. They want time, which is the exact same thing they wanted when they were alive, but we don't think about that because we really do busy ourselves with things very much in this world.[01:15:00]

And so there's definitely a shifting there. You know, Samuel doesn't show up at my house carrying boxes of chocolate. Hey, that's a really good idea. Do they make metaphysical chocolate? Um, you know, he doesn't show up with gifts. He shows up with himself, and that is greater than any item he could ever, transport in or out of this world is his presence and his time.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, absolutely. So, whew. Well, I'm realizing we've definitely surpassed a one episode amount of time, but we also still have all of the crystal cave stuff. Mm-hmm. Would you like to Maybe Yes. We could do a. Sort of song for closing and complete this. And then let everybody know that we're going to, we're gonna start, next week we will Yes.

Start with the, you know, ask more about the crystal [01:16:00] cave and that there's more forthcoming. 

Tava Baird: That sounds great. 

Thank you so much too, for being willing to sing again and being willing to just sort of stand up and go on faith and, dance with an angel live on, on the middle of the podcast.

it's really great. 

Jennifer Taylor: Absolutely. I have to say, I have such complete faith in Samuel. I am totally willing to do anything that he, that he says to do. And just know that welt somehow it's gonna be alright.

Tava Baird: Alright. And so here we go for a closing song. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yep. And I guess he's done so well at this point. If there's anything that he, would like to request or suggest, I am happy to do that. 

Tava Baird: He says, "sing to me of mountains, please." He's asking Ooh. He's not demanding. He's saying Of course not. He's saying "Sing to me of mountains, please." 

Jennifer Taylor: Alright, well [01:17:00] that sounds wonderful. Uh ha. All.

[01:18:00] [01:19:00] Okay. 

Tava Baird: That was really, really beautiful. 

Jennifer Taylor: Thank you. 

Tava Baird: Um, and apparently Samuel did not get the message that these are the closing [01:20:00] sentences of the podcast because not only does he have what sound like closing words. But he started about ta. He started talking about something I haven't told you all about yet, Jen.

I haven't even gotten a chance to tell you about it. 

Jennifer Taylor: Wow. Um, 

Tava Baird: and it may be, I don't know if it's bonus content or the beginning of the next one, but here we go. I'll read you what he said in totality and we'll leave people hanging until I can get back with them. "Vistas. A mountain is a perch to look into new vistas, and you can climb them effortlessly in your own being.

Shake off the trappings you bear, the packs you carry. Extend your arms outward. Move your heart forward and breathe.

Listen to the echo of the [01:21:00] hawks cries below. Where the Sacred Hunter surveys the path forward from the air, wings, and wind, he is risen. Open your inner eyes. These are the eyes of God. And see before you in earth and stone, in air and atmosphere, a new country, a place where trees grow through the homes and the dead have a place at the table, and recreate yourself closer to your remembering image anew. I land, I create, I walk between worlds. I die and come again."

Jennifer Taylor: Wow. 

Tava Baird: And there's a big old story with that last [01:22:00] bit.

Jennifer Taylor: Wow. Well that was a beautiful, set of images and words to end on, to leave people thinking and contemplating and connecting with. And we will continue this conversation next week where we will see what additional parts you might get. And then we were also going to be asking Samael more about the crystal Cave and some of the other things that had come up at the very beginning of this.

So we hope that you go out into the world this week finding the newness and discovery in all of the same places that you walk and. Bringing your [01:23:00] full presence to all of your interactions and moments and getting to explore and discover the blessing that it brings. 

Tava Baird: Thank you so much everyone for listening.

We hope you have a beautiful week. remember to close those eyes and be where you are, or shut off that sense, and be where you are and enjoy the moment and gift of presence. 

Jennifer Taylor: Happy walking blind. 

Tava Baird: Happy walking blind.