Vibrational Alchemy: Balancing Energies and Divine Manifestations

In the continuation of last week's discussion - this episode delves into the profound nature of vibrational energies and divine entities. The hosts discuss the dynamic aspects of the Morrigan, emphasizing the importance of balancing high-vibration entities with grounding forces, such as Elen of the Ways. They explore how integrating a variety of energies can reveal new facets of well-known deities and deepen spiritual practices. Additionally, the value of grounding techniques, such as grounding mats and the presence of nature spirits in one's environment, are highlighted. Reflecting on the interplay of their own guiding entities, the hosts uncover insights into how varied energies shape their own personal and collective experiences. This episode encourages listeners to embrace the fluidity and interconnectedness of spiritual energies in their lives.

00:00 Welcome and Opening Song
03:20 Exploring the Morrigan's Energy
06:09 Balancing Energies with Elen of the Ways
09:40 Grounding Techniques and Tools
21:01 The Power of Story and Energetic Balance
23:24 The Role of Grounding in Spiritual Practices
24:27 Samael's Insights on Energetic Vibrations
28:11 The Importance of Balance in Channeling
33:13 Solstice and the Balance of Energies
35:48 Understanding Vibrational Alignment
36:40 Energetic Burnishing
38:47 Puzzle Master - in the energetic and physical worlds
40:21 Spirits of Place and Nature Beings
45:10 Divine Alchemy and Mixing Energies
49:08 Exploring Multiple Aspects of Entities
59:53 The Fluidity of Divine Identity
01:06:13 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

1:07 - closing song

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Jennifer Taylor:  Amnivara (previously Willow Ridge Reiki and Healing Arts)           https://www.Amnivara.com/

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Vibrational Alchemy: Balancing Energies and Divine Manifestation

I apologize for the speaker labeling in this episode...editing was a mess and the voice detection software was not working properly. But the transcript itself should be pretty accurate.  

Jennifer Taylor (2): [00:00:00] Welcome back to Mystical Musings! We will begin with the opening song from last week and then dive right back into our conversation! 

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TAVA TAVA: Samael's basically, like he's now repeated the same thing to me like five times for me to talk about. And I'm like, okay, okay. Okay. And then he also had this, uh, little, you hear this, okay, so I'm about to speak at hallowed homecoming on the Morgan.

And you can look up the history, you can look up, all of the lovely old, tales about her and the Ulster Cycle and all of that. And people who study the Morgan know that stuff. And I've done the Morgan class for a couple of years now and it's usually starts off very history based and you know, we do [00:04:00] an alter doll and we talk about her energy.

But somebody said something, and I think I may have brought this up on the podcast before, but it started a whole new aspect of the Morgan to me. I was at conference earlier this year and I was having a conversation with a gentleman who said, you ever notice how the people who love the Morgan their lives always seemed to be a mess?

And he said, not all of them, but a lot of them, you talk to them and their life is a mess. And I started thinking about it. 'cause I know Keith works with the Morgan. His life is not a mess. But I know why Keith is, life is not a mess versus what the other people are doing. And I talked with Samael A.

Little bit about this, just like you have a vibration and I have a vibration. The entity that we call the Morrigan has a vibration. What is the Morrigan? She's a shapeshifter. She is [00:05:00] transformation. She is the line between the living and the dead. It is her crows and ravens that bring people's souls back to the cauldron of rebirth.

She is right there on the edge of things, and she transforms constantly, constantly, constantly. There is what we would call a chaos, but in a very high vibration, we would interpret it as chaos. The Morgan would not 'cause that's her, but it's a very high vibration, probably too much for most people to handle if it's just her that they're working with, right?

So she comes in and their lives are transformation, transformation, transformation, transformation. Then there is no grounding element to balance out that transformation. And so for a lot of people, they suddenly feel like everything is [00:06:00] spiraling into chaos because the transformation does not have another grounding side

Elen of the ways, or some people say Ellen of the ways, right? Depending on how you pronounce it. Samael pointed out that she's a grounding force. She does walk between worlds, but she leads people through. She's the spirit of the herd. She's perhaps the oldest entity we know of in Britain. She is very grounded, I believe.

Keith he tends to work with them both in equal measure. When he's on his runs, he talks to them both. He sees the deer and then he sees the crow and he speaks to them both. So I think that those energies help to balance each other out, which makes his work with the Morgan [00:07:00] productive, not chaotic.

So one of the main things that I'm speaking about on the Morgan at Hallowed Homecoming is we have to think of the entities that we reach out to as more than individual entities. Like we would reach out to a friend, we have to consider their vibration. And a lot of people say, oh, I only work with, this particular entity.

This is my main entity. But if we don't consider, and they think, oh, if I, if I add in others, I'm being disloyal. And I'm like, no, no, no. I think it was you who first said maybe two years ago having a committee of people. Right? But there are entities that come in to teach you and then they move out when your life changes and you're vibrating a little bit differently that there are always new ones coming in and others flowing out, different ancestors visiting to teach and then moving on when they don't have anything else to teach you.

You've [00:08:00] got kind of a metaphysical boardroom with a revolving door, and if you go, I'm only letting one entity into this room to work with me, then that's the only vibration you are gonna vibe to, and that's the only ideas you're going to hear. And there's no one to balance out their particular 

Energy, which then essentially just moves you into that camp with no balancing force. So one of the things I'm talking about with the Morigan is who are you going to call in when you reach for that extremely high energy that walks the border between two things? who are you going to call in to ground you?

On the other side, you needs to be a trio of you, not just you and the entity and. That will bring in that grounding [00:09:00] factor. And now this is the thing that I'm going to, because Sam Miles started talking about it. You were talking about when we were down. Um, well, you saw it at, uh, spiritual Wonders Fair.

And you were also down at, uh, Virginia Witches and Pagan Pride with me. Right. And I remember you were like, whoa. Because I mean, it was two buildings full of people walking through, having spiritual experiences, and all of their guides were walking with them. And, you know, can only imagine if I'd had dowsing rods that it might have gone nuts.

Samael said, build it. And I said, build what? And he said, A grounding place that at these events, what we need to do is make a space in a booth , people put on headphones listen to grounding music from Amnivara to balance out their energy from [00:10:00] walking through the space. So when people who are very psychic and pick up energy really easily walk into one of these events, and after a little while they're starting to feel jittery and like they're picking up on everything around them and they start to feel dizzy.

I mean, we know that feeling when you have been channeling too long who are working there. The people who are visiting there could walk in and have a place where they could sit down. Sort of remember Samael talked about the entrance to Amnivara being dark line, fold on headphones on grounding, listen to the music, ring them down.

So that then they're able to continue and that would be their first introduction to the balancing work that you do. So that I [00:11:00] imagine they will come in, sit down, get some of the grounding music, get up and go, whoa, energetically something has shifted. And that's the opportunity to talk to them about rethinking how they balance what is around them and how music is a wonderful way to ground.

We always talk about raising power, raising power, raising power in the Pagan community, you've got to come back down or you're literally just, you know, you're, you're where I am on a Monday after a double day market. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Yeah. And that's a challenging place to be. you know, that saying that it is in the energy, world a lot about you can only hold as much energy as you can ground.

Yes. and I had a really profound experience when I was up in Vermont and in the Evolution of Consciousness series retreat with our, mentors. And [00:12:00] I had this whole experience with Michael and Gabriel and 

I was realizing rather than trying to hold it. It was meant to be flowing through and that the grounding was very, very important. But also, it needed to be this continuous flow and not trying to hold it.

And that the phrase is always, you can only hold as much light as you can ground. and the ideas that it needs to be continually just flowing through you.

And yes, the grounding part's still absolutely essential. yeah, I remember us talking about when I was at the spiritual wonder faire where I was like, it did not feel like this at mm-hmm. The witches in pagan pride. walking around almost, it kind of made you dizzy.

Like I had to focus on physical things to not be, dizzy and floating away and dissociating. because the vibration there was so, so [00:13:00] high. I mean, there were , were a lot of psychics, booth after booth after booth of psychics, people doing energy healing, people doing reiki, doing psychic readings, crystals and the crystals that were there, the intensity of the energy coming, those were all very potent, very charged crystals as well.

I was talking to the woman behind the booth, I was like, I don't know how you don't have to require like a chain to hold you down And she was like, well, I've gotten really used to it. But it was, it was really different. And when you think about it. I if we could find a balance like the witches and pagan pride, you know, is very, very grounded.

And if we could find something that was a really good balance between having that earth connection. It is, it's the same thing that Samael was talking about with the 

Speaker 3: Yeah. You 

Jennifer Taylor (2): know, working with the Morgan and, Cernunnos or Cernunos, I'm not sure how to say it right. is the other one that Keith works with a lot.

So You know, very, [00:14:00] very grounded, very connected to the Earth. And that when I think about it, gosh, it was probably over a year ago now when I had one of the angelic gateway opening, sessions and the practitioner was saying that Michael was there and that I needed to be channeling Gaia.

Yes. And I'm thinking that for me that's the balance. There's Michael, which is very high vibration, and then needing to be channeling Gaia or the stones or Crone, you know, some being that is very earth centered, very solid. And I love the idea of having a grounding space.

And one of the things that I had left talking about, and I think this is really interesting, the more I remember of it was we had had a conversation with somebody who was doing a lot of time slipping, kind of uncontrolled time slipping and jumping from realm to realm. And that I left it going, I need [00:15:00] to get stones and have crone and the stone beings that I brought back from Vermont attune these stones to their energy because I believe that's part of what they do is the time slipping to be done in a controlled, balanced environment. I think maybe having some attuned stones there as well could be beneficial for them to hold to help again with that feeling the earth and connecting 

TAVA TAVA: he, he's added a stone circle in a market place for leaving and arriving an ancestor altar he's talking about two circles.

One where the living can sit and ground and next to it. and it can be small, I think make maybe on a tabletop, a small stone circle that helps entities aim for [00:16:00] something and if they are feeling a little bit imbalanced, they can pop there and perhaps people coming through the market who want to leave a little something or leave a message they could do that at that circle.

So you're basically creating a healing balancing space and an equal space for the unbodied for their ancestors to come and the nature spirits to come and help ground to in the same area. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): It's So I'm interesting that you said stone circle, because when you said create a grounding space, in my head I saw.

A circle of stones that they were standing in. Mm-hmm. Like it was, there was like a black mat underneath probably grounding mat. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. Grounding mat. Yeah. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): I saw like a circle of stones. And it's funny 'cause I didn't realize that he didn't actually say that. I was picturing people [00:17:00] standing in this just small little circle, you know, just big enough for them to stand in.

But maybe there is a grounding circle where the stones are there. That's part of it, is they step into that space and the stones help to maybe hold that space as grounding.

Yes. So they've got, and that's the grounding place. 

TAVA TAVA: Can you talk about, 'cause people, I didn't know what a grounding mat was. Would you mind talking about that too to our listeners? Sure. A little bit. 'cause I, I love that grounding mat. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Yeah. And I have my feet on it right now with a black tourmaline sitting on there.

and I'm not an expert in the grounding mats But the idea is that 

a grounding mat works by creating an electrical connection to the earth, allowing your body to discharge excess like static electricity. And, um, certain kinds of ions into the earth and balance its electrical charge by absorbing free [00:18:00]electrons from the earth. So the mat has these conductive fibers that, um, I think it says like silver and different things that help to kind of mimic walking barefoot outdoors.

And there's all sorts of claims and things that are made about what it's supposed to be able to do and how it helps you. But basically there's this mat and it has this little snap kind of thing on it where you snap this cord to it and that cord goes into the grounding plug.

You know how you have those three prong plugs in your, house? Well, the lower middle one that's kind of a little bit more circular, that's actually a grounding plug. I never knew what that was. That is actually to help to ground whatever is plugged in there. So if you plug this special grounding mat thing, it's basically just that lower prong without the upper two, you know, vertical kind of slot things that [00:19:00] go into it.

So you plug something just into that lowest bottom circle one, and that connects to the house's, grounding system. So apparently when, they build the house, they have to send a grounding rod down below the foundation, into the earth and ground all of the electrical outlets to that so that if there's like an, a discharge, like a sudden big charge of things, it's supposed to go down into the earth and ground it.

Just like people put like lightning rods on their house to ground it. So by plugging something into that outlet, you are theoretically Actually able to connect down into the ground because that's the part of it that goes down and is connected down into the ground. So the idea is that you're putting your feet on something, then that gives you close to the same experience of standing barefoot on the ground.

And supposedly there are, negative ions that are given off by the [00:20:00] earth and by like running water and things like that, that are really beneficial for us. So you're able to absorb what you need, and then you're also discharging excess, energies and things into the earth. So when I'm sitting here and I have my feet on the grounding mat, it's similar to sitting here and having my feet on the earth and helping to ground.

And then I have a, a big black tourmaline that I have sitting on it because tourmaline is something that tends to absorb a lot of like so-called negative energies. And um, I'm like, I realized that like the terminology for all these things needs to be adjusted. So I'm calling it so-called negative energies.

But you know, they absorb these energies that are, um, not as beneficial and they need to be kind of continually cleared. And so I have the tourmaline on that mat so that it can be continually kind of discharging and be sending things into the earth and being cleared at the same time. [00:21:00]

TAVA TAVA: Yeah, and I will tell you, I have been over to do power of story recordings with Jen and Keith, and they have put that underneath me and the vibration in the room when Jen is singing and playing an instrument and Keith is singing and playing an instrument and I'm channeling Samael at the same time, sometimes I feel like the top of my head's gonna blow off.

Um, having that grounding mat under my feet makes a big difference. So especially if you do a lot of like you're sitting and doing computer work. You and you just want to be able to put your feet on the grounding mat, uh, throughout the day. Highly recommend this thing. It made me feel a lot better. 

Speaker: Yeah.

And they make ones that you can like put on your bed and sleep on, they make 'em. Um, the one that I have under my feet, I think is actually designed to be sitting under a computer where you would rest like your, uh, wrists or hand kind of on that while [00:22:00] you're typing. Um, but, and it doesn't have to be very big.

Like I, and having your feet on it is ideal. But it's funny, I remember when, um, our daughter was really young. Like she was, I don't know, like a year old or so, and so, there was no placebo effect for her. And we would, we had the mat that was only about a foot deep and about two and a half feet long, and I'd put that in the bed 'cause I was intending to lay on it. Wherever it was, she would in her sleep, gravitate to it and have as much of her body on that as possible. And it happened all the time. And like I would put it in a different spot and watch and she would end up on top of that grounding mat wherever she happened to be. So I thought that was really interesting that she naturally felt that that was what she needed and clearly was getting benefit from being on it.

So I thought that was fascinating. 

Speaker 2: And you can just get them online, right? 

Speaker: Yeah, You can just order 'em [00:23:00] online and they're not particularly expensive, especially, relatively smaller ones. but yeah, it really does help. And I've found too, a lot of times if I'm, doing a lot of channeling or something, I would put it in the center of the floor and I would stand on it as I was standing and singing and moving.

And it does seem to help to, kind of keep me more anchored and balanced. 

TAVA TAVA: Oh my goodness. Um, I remember years ago also being told that moving water was very grounding. That if you really felt off and you could get in a shower or a body of water to do that, that that was supposed to help balance things out.

And I know a lot of times when I'm out of sorts, like, you go get in water, you feel better. but I also have had an experience where sometimes, um, certain entities, I'm thinking about you, Samael also really like to start talking when I'm in bodies of water. Um, Samael did [00:24:00] say something kind of interesting here because we were talking about Michael's vibration being super, super high and when I channel for a long time, I do get really tired.

But it's interesting. I don't feel like Samael's vibration is where Michael's is. Like a lot of times his is a very, almost like an opposite version. And he said as we were talking, the difference between myself and Michael is, I fell. Remember when we talked about the opposite reactions? There was a podcast, gosh, I don't know how many episodes it was now, where we were talking about the fallen and how he said it wasn't that we were kicked out of anywhere.

It was that several of us who were already engaged with the earth chose, to fall to fall away [00:25:00] from being perfectly connected so that Michael could cut a door into a new realm. It appears he's talking about that, that may have changed their energies a bit. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Well, it makes sense because he talked about that 

there was a need for this massive amount of energy to create something or do what needed to be done in another realm. And so by them falling, that created that. it sounds like they actually gave some of that vibration Yes.

Of their vibration. They gave up a portion of it to fuel that, mission. And so yeah, that makes total sense. It's like basically if a section of that really high vibration energy has been kind of cut away or, you know, let go of or removed his vibration wouldn't be as intense for us because he let go of some of that.

He gave some of that so that it [00:26:00] could be used. Oh wow. 

BAIRD BAIRD: He says it me to talk here. this is interesting because he talks all the time about how song is closer to how angels speak, how they converse, and why Michael comes through in song to you so easily. And while Samael does like he'll sing, he's obviously very attracted to music.

He talks about the benefits of music all the time, but I hear him in words mostly. His vibration went down from song, the words, and so it became less the way that his so to speak, his energetic siblings like Michael and Gabriel, and those communicate and became more like how humans communicate in words and makes him more [00:27:00] understandable too, us through words. It's a lowering of a vibration. Oh my gosh. And I'm wondering, so when Keith is playing the ditch, when we get Keith's favorite, I love this phrase. He says, I'm gonna dig you in the face. I think it's the funniest thing. Right. And he has literally ditched us in the face. 

Speaker: Yeah. And he uses that like in times when I am really, I'm, I really need a massive shift.

And I am in just typically a really rotten kind of place. He's like, do you need to get ditched in the face? I'm like, I probably do. And literally we will come in and he will just point the ditch right at me. And it does. It's like it blasts everything away and I feel so much better. 

Tava Baird: And the drums he as well.

Speaker: Yes. Do you think 

Tava Baird: that the drums and the dig are rounding? 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Oh, for sure. That they, 

TAVA TAVA: they have those lower, when he plays the dig, it's that really deep, like, whoa. [00:28:00] And when he does the overtone singing, it's low too. So it becomes a balancing energy of what Michael's bringing through. I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons why power of story is the way it is, is that is providing this strong grounding energy and Samael's down on that end and then you are bringing through Michael and Gabriel a bunch of these high vibration ones.

On the other side, And then what we, out of those two forces is a balanced place. And we always are amazed. Think about the one that we did where we finished the power of story session and we were all like, I don't know. I don't know if that's gonna be good. And then Samael said, add in the water.

Right. So there was one more element that came in, and then when we played it back, it was freaking [00:29:00]incredible. Once the water was added in, we had balance that water. I, I don't know if it comes in, I guess on the grounding side, or maybe it's right down the middle. Yeah, because 

Speaker: I, I feel, or maybe, yeah, maybe, I don't 

Speaker 2: know, 

Speaker: maybe just below the line 

Into grounding where yeah. I, I feel like water is definitely grounding, but it's also flow, which is a little bit different. Yes. Right. Yeah. I would sort of stack that above the dig, but yes, 

But still on the grounding side of things.

And you know what, remember we were having lunch and we were preparing for the fertile ground gathering and for the first power of story. Yes. And he said that Keith would ground me or no, that he would balance me. He used the word balance. Yes. he was saying that Keith would balance me.

And I wasn't entirely sure. I was like, I know [00:30:00] that he is like a grounding force for me, but I don't think any of us really realized exactly what he was talking about. But he does, he brings in this much more grounded and I think the beings that are working through him, while Michael is definitely one of them, he has a lot more really grounded.

vibrational kind of beings, and that if I am in Michael land, you know, I need balancing. Like he helps to balance me. And I think like you were saying, balances the whole thing. And that's part of why it's so powerful. It's like you have all of these elements in there together, allowing for, and, and I mean three people bringing through their guides all at one time.

Yes. 

Speaker 2: Well, and also I, now this something else is striking me. Guys, we have to get you some power of story recordings because this will make much more sense once you've heard them. Think about, when [00:31:00] we talk about high vibration and grounded vibration, just hear between you and me, you sing. Here comes Michael and Gabriel and a bunch of other high vibration on our podcast.

Samael's Energy is usually pretty relaxed, right? Like with the exception of that one that we did on right. Of the, uh, 

Speaker 3: 10 banishing unethical sovereignty, 

Speaker 2: 10 steps to sovereignty, right? And remember how we were like reeling after that one, right? It's usually like down here much quieter. When we do power of story though, he often elevates almost up to the level of 10 steps to sovereignty.

when he's is, he's talking about Lilith and Mary Magdalene and Beth, and he gets thunderous at times. I'm wondering if, because Keith is doing what he's doing there, Samael doesn't have to be a balancing force for Michael. He can [00:32:00]just do his thing better because Keith is creating the balancing energy.

So it allows Samael. To rise up a little bit energetically. He doesn't have to be a counterpoint for Michael like he is when we are doing this. Instead he can go up energetically because Keith's got that bottom area covered. 

Speaker: Yeah. Well, and I remember, I think, I don't remember if it was our last podcast, one of the last ones we were talking about when we were talking about Crone keeper of stones that we felt, we left it feeling so much more balanced.

Like we didn't feel quite as exhausted and I was able to articulate much better throughout it. There was a lot less editing that had to be done. Like I was able to form complete sentences all throughout it or throughout most of it. And that's again that, that grounding for Michael, to [00:33:00] ground the whole thing and hold us to where we can keep operating in this physical world and bringing through those higher vibrations.

Tava Baird: So this is interesting. Samael just laughed and said, look to your left. So here is who is to my left. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Oh, there she is. So 

BAIRD BAIRD: here's Solstice. So people who are listening, you've heard about Crone, I was gifted. another little entity from

Jenn solstice sits near the head of my bone table and I've been noticing since she's been around that I am able to follow through on things much better. Than normal. things have become more organized. especially in my physical world, things [00:34:00] fall into place. and I'm handling the connection between the physical world and the metaphysical world much better.

And we've been talking about Crohn's influence on what Gente has been doing. Samael is pointing out that this is the first podcast we've done where Solstice has been here to my left. We'll find it interesting too that her name is Solstice, because what is solstice? A solstice is a time when you have the energy balanced between the light and dark , and between the length of day and the length of night, right?

You have a balancing thing. And I was remarking at the beginning of this podcast, Hey, Samael is topical for the first time. I'm wondering if her energy in the space as we are podcasting is [00:35:00] allowing sort of what he is thinking about and what I am thinking about to align a little bit better rather than just sort of whatever he starts talking about.

We then follow, he was able to see what we were already starting to speak on and sort of pick it up. And then he ran with that. And obviously it's taken a very different turn away from black mirrors here, but, it still started off much more in alignment with what we were already talking about than it normally does.

And I'm wondering if that might be solstice over here. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Yeah. And I know you had mentioned too that she was like. Puzzle master, like all these things that you hadn't been able to fit together. all these different, puzzles of how to set up the booth or more practical kinds of physical situations and things that you had been trying to figure out how they fit together, both [00:36:00] in, just games you were playing, but then in actual life things that she was helping to make those things fit.

And it, yeah, it makes sense that it's like she's kind of helping our vibration and his vibration and what we are kind of thinking about and what he's doing to fit together in a different kind of way. 

TAVA TAVA: He just said he smooths the edges. That's interesting. Oh, he just said burnishes, which is as I just learned the word, like what a burnisher was this weekend.

I know probably everybody listening knows what a burnisher is, but I have a friend who does leather working and I have a bunch of leather scraps lying around from the book binding classes that I used to teach. 

BAIRD BAIRD: I saw my friend, at Ravenwood Fair, 'cause he was there vending all of his [00:37:00] beautiful leather goods.

And I said something to him about, you know, I have all these other pieces. I really wanna learn to do something with them. Simple book cover of them, but I don't really know anything about working with leather other than use awl punch hole, you know, and then like things through. And so he started giving me a little lesson on, basic leather work and working with thicker leather.

And he said, and then you burnish the edges. And I said, I'm sorry, I don't know what it is and he said, well, you know, leather is hide. It's got a grain to it. And when you cut a thicker piece, um, he said, if you don't burnish it, you'll see people who are wearing a leather brick litt or um, you know, something like that.

And they'll say, oh, the edges are kind of sharp. He says, what you do in leather working is you take an item. He said, you can use water or you can [00:38:00] spray it. I forget what the other thing is. He said that people spray it with, but I remember the water. He said, you put water on and you take, um, like a heavy object, like a wooden object, and you run it back and forth along the edge, but it takes off all the little fibers might poke you and makes a smooth edge so that the piece feel good and looks like it's edged correctly.

And that, that's called burnishing. So he just said she smooths the edges, she burnishes. So all my little rough fibers of thinking are itching me and how all fitting together teaches soaks that smooths it all out. And now things fall into place. Even this morning, the place here where I'm podcasting right now is a absolute fricking disaster because I'm going from one market to the other.

So there are spirit dice drying [00:39:00] on one table and stacks of felt over here and shipping supplies and it's just chaos. And I walked in this morning and went, oh wait, I have a shelf in the garage that would go there, that would improve that. Oh wait, I have a thing there that would go that all these things I already owned it already had, it was just like my mind suddenly started playing Tetris.

But well. And I was like, oh, I know how to make all this work now. And that that's been happening a lot lately. I have for two years now, struggled with how to put a booth together. So that traffic flow worked well, and it looked the way I wanted it to look, and it operated the way I wanted it to operate.

And she showed up and I was immediately like, I know how this works. And we went out to Ravenwood Fair last weekend and I was like, that goes there, that goes there, that goes there, that gets tied to that. And everything just fit together like a [00:40:00] puzzle piece. And people started coming into my little, you know, metaphysical booth and saying, oh my God, this is gorgeous.

And I've never had compliments on my booth before. And I was like, thank you. And it was like everything just started to fit, um, almost like a portal. Readjusting its numbers. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Yeah. Oh I've had so much interest lately, because I've been working more and more with, the spirits of place and nature beings and nature and, entities and things like that.

But this, the putting together of essentially what would be like different spirits, like, you know, wood and stone and feathers, and bringing them together to form these beings, or to give the, being the form that they're wanting, that, you know, Liz does that has created crone and Shaman who is, [00:41:00] Keith's newest, friend and teacher and, solstice.

I'm really intrigued as to how that works. If it's like, there are beings that work together. Like there's, white Eagle is a being that I work with and, learned about through Jonathan Goldman, but White Eagle isn't an individual spirit. He is basically kind of the personification of this whole group of beings that are working together with a common cuase that they are especially care about.

And so, they say we go by White Eagle because it's a lot easier for us to relate to them to have a name and some sort of image. And so I wonder if it's almost kind of the same thing where when Liz is bringing together these different elements from nature, and I know she said she starts with a piece of wood and [00:42:00] that piece of wood, like she connects with it and then she adds these other pieces and things to it according to bringing out its personality and kind of bringing it into a form that looks sort of person like that's in alignment with what the spirit in that piece of wood.

If it's almost like, you know, as she's like the stone that became Crohn's face, that there was no face on it until she put it on there. And you look at it and it is clear as day, like a face if it's almost like that nature spirit that is in the wood is actually calling to it other like-minded spirits, like other spirits that have a similar kind of goal and purpose.

And what becomes. The face that we see, or the adornment or the hair or the wings or whatever it is, are actually energies of other nature spirits that are coming [00:43:00] together, kind of like the beings that came together to become white eagle. 

TAVA TAVA: I think that sounds right on. And I mean, if we think about earlier, Samael was talking about spirits and entities being able to be in one, like, I don't wanna use the term fragmented, but kind of, that they can be in more than one place at one time.

And there's the idea that we can be in more than one place at one time. You know, you can be sleeping in your bed and time slipping somewhere else. Um, Samael can be in, you know, on the west coast and on the east coast at the same time, and lord knows how many other places. But you have this, this, the tree that the wood came from has this particular energetic vibration and this piece of it has a particular energetic vibration.

And then the stone adds its part and the feather adds its part. [00:44:00] And those vibrations mix to become a new vibration. Or perhaps it's a vibration that's merged before that's just coming through and manifesting. And we end up with, you know, a being that we can reach out and interact with. It gives us, you know, this little statue gives us the focus of the energies of the wood and the stone and the feather.

And, and Liz's magic is pulling it and tying it together and it harmonizes and then. It reaches out and harmonizes with us, and that's what attracts us to it. You know, when I first saw this one in her garage, I went, oh, no. You know, like, I loved it. And then I went by her booth and I saw it in her booth, and every single time there'd be all these other ones in my eyes would just go to this one.

Like, [00:45:00] I knew that was the one that I needed. It was a puzzle piece that I needed to manifest something. And now the manifestation is taking hold. This is all kind of divine alchemy, so to speak. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Yeah. And yeah, all of it, all of it from the very beginning, it's divine alchemy. And I know Samael was saying, gosh, well over a year ago that that's what I would be doing.

I would be mixing in and taking pieces of, uh, what, was the word he used for mixing? deciding just the right amount of darkness and light and all of these things. And that it was alchemy. And that that's what I would be doing in the sessions as I was transitioning from just doing reiki to feeling all these other things that were coming in that I'm mixing, it's like this custom mixing of the light and the dark and all of these different energies.

And [00:46:00] now we're seeing that we're doing that in every different area. We're mixing all the different guides that are coming in and having, just the right kind of mix of, guides and energies and vibrations coming in to support the work that we're doing or to support us so that we can do that work.

And the mixing of. working with Crone and Michael, and I know Samiah was talking about the prompts for the Lilith album that you had written on the notes, anytime you haven't specified, which, being to call in that it's Lilith and Michael and that Michael, they balance, would balance out that really frenzied energy that she tends to have.

Um, yeah, it's, it's all, yeah, it's all this mixing and alchemy and then also him talking about, I feel like it wasn't that long ago that we were having those conversations about how that furthered the understanding of we are not one pure [00:47:00] thing. And that part of that is that we're also picking up pieces of each other as we work our way through life.

You know, that I have parts of your energy and me and other friends and vice versa. And the people that we're close to, it's like we pick up more of their energies and that we're actually walking around as this ball of vibration that has bits of all of the different, beings and energies and things that we've encountered and worked with and, had interactions with.

It's really, this is really fascinating 

BAIRD BAIRD: and if we go back even farther, remember when Sam started talking to you about, remember there was a list, and he said there was much more to come. There was a song for water and a song for Earth and a song for Stone. He was trying to break down the idea that [00:48:00] everything had its own unique vibration.

And then I remember, and he was talking about. Putting them together. And then one day you were just, you just sort of jumped ahead and I remember him saying, oh, she's already doing it. Like she doesn't need the baby steps of understanding this. She's intuitively mixing things together. Now remember when you sat down to be like, what is sand?

And you were experiencing sand and there was gonna be a vibration that came through from sand. Now you're in the place where you go, there's not just a vibration for stone. Each individual stone has a vibration that is affected by its origin that is affected by other stones. It's attuned to that is affected by who it's around.

You know, we think about the salt cave. Then our whole discussion about that, you know, he was kind of trying to give us that very intro idea of alchemy. [00:49:00] And then once those pieces were there, you didn't even have to break it down anymore. You just went into mixing. And so this goes back to when we are at these big events, our energy is mixing with everybody like we come into contact and have conversation with, which probably explains why I need naps every Monday.

You know, we have become alchemists without even realizing that's what we were doing. And to go back and kind of circle around to the beginning of last week's podcast, we're swimming in a sea of all of these energies. And the energies are always moving and growing and changing. They're not stagnant.

There isn't a place where no energy exists. You're not sitting in a sterile house. You know, I'm thinking, what if something follows me home? You swim in it all the time. The [00:50:00] difference in your experience is going to be that permeable membrane, how you filter what comes in and goes out. If a jellyfish does manage to get in, how you help it out the other side.

What vibration and speed and tempo do you flow to, and what entities do you call in so that you can manifest things differently? Um, the alchemy of you and I on this podcast is not only our energies, but the energies of our lovely, lovely listeners and the feedback that we get from them, and it's Michael and Samael and Gabriel and all those things.

But when we get in a room for power of story and Keith is there, it allows Samsel to become a different aspect of Samael because of what [00:51:00] Keith is adding in. If he's adding in the grounding energy, then Samael doesn't have to do as much of that. And what we get in the power of story is a different aspect or a different manifestation of his energy.

And when you interact with Michael, you are a slightly different, it's a different manifestation of your life. It's a different manifestation of you than the aspect that might be sitting in the carpool line, picking up your daughter, you know, like because of the mixing and blending of those energies. I just think that's really cool.

Jennifer Taylor (2): It really is. And you know, it reminds me what you were saying as far as, you know, when the three of us are together and when one area then is covered, like the grounding area is covered, it allows Sam Mile to change his vibration and do something else. 

Speaker: so, we used to do this reiki share where probably like six or [00:52:00] eight of us would for the whole session, all work on that one person. And a lot of the people at the time, I didn't feel like I had any sort of claires at all. I was like, as muggle as they got, as far as I was thinking of myself.

And, but there were other people who had, you know, incredible clairvoyance or clear audience and they were, you know, describing the scenes of what was happening and the, the different, beings that were there and what they were doing. And people would be hearing things. And also each of us would be picking up on different things that were happening within the person's energy field or their body because things were covered.

and what we've learned is that when a certain person wasn't there, that was maybe super clairvoyant and would be describing the scene visually, other people would get more hits of visuals than they normally do. And so what I came to realize is [00:53:00] that we were each filling in the spots that were open, you know, we were each providing like what we were getting in terms of Claire's and you know, like what we were intuitively picking up on was both something that others weren't necessarily focused on and weren't picking up on.

and we were certain clears that we had seemed to be enhanced in order to fill in the blanks. So, you know, if the main person that usually is clairvoyant is there, there's no need for me to see and describe that because it's like having multiple people doing the same kind of thing. But I would then be given something else to focus on or a different aspect so that I could bring out another aspect of what was happening in the group.

And I think that was happening for everybody to where there were overlaps of what, of people's gifts, but the gifts [00:54:00] and the strengths would shift based on who was there. Because it's like, okay, well if that's covered now we don't need multiple people doing the same thing. We need somebody doing this. So multiple things were getting pointed out and addressed in a person's energy field that wouldn't normally because you could only be covering so many things at once and all the main bases were covered.

And so it sort of allowed for all these additional things. And it's, it seems like that's kind of what is happening with the guides like if somebody's able to take over, you know, the grounding ability or the opening to, the higher vibration ability, then it leaves room for the guides that you have to bring out a new aspect of themselves because that's already covered.

And that's the same kind of thing that would happen in these sessions. 

TAVA TAVA: That is amazing. I'm like, and now my mind is going, oh my God. Think of all the entities that 

Speaker 2: we look at and we say this is [00:55:00] how they are. This is their domain. This is what they do, these are the things they specialize in. This is who I call on in this situation.

We are interacting with them a lot of times in one way, I am calling on to go back to the Morgan. I call on the Morgan and just the Morgan. What would happen if you called on the Morgan while she was surrounded by five other entities? Are there things that her energy covers that might be covered by others that would allow us to experience a new aspect of her divinity?

the same way that when you guys were doing that session, new aspects of what you were able to do could come out 'cause things were covered. I feel like we should call this episode like the jigsaw puzzle of alchemy or something like there. There [00:56:00] are, there may be things we are limiting ourselves to in our understanding by repeatedly calling on entities in a certain way.

If we have this idea that many ghosts we encounter is scary and an isolated incident. But what we're actually seeing is an unbodied entity that we're only, you know, and we are bringing our emotions that we've seen from a horror film to the table. If there's a deity that we call on, but we always work with them in basically the same way.

who else are we shutting out? And in doing that, shutting out what aspects of that deity that we have a relationship with are we not able to see? It's kind of like when you take your significant other to a party and you think, oh, they're always so quiet in public, and then you look over at one point and they found just the right mix of people [00:57:00] and they're all animated and having a great time.

And you think, who are you? Like, the situation was right, for a different side of them to come out. And I'm wondering if we start having more metaphysical, energetic parties, what else might we learn about, entities that we've put in a box? 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Yeah, I, I mean, it's really fascinating that the idea of working with, you know, if we're really devoted to this one deity, this one entity really, committed to this one relationship and concerned about adding anybody else in, because we're so focused on it.

But the idea that by inviting others into the party, you know, by inviting in other beings that have different, aspects, that might be the only way you can actually experience a lot of other [00:58:00] aspects of that same being that you are so devoted to and so wanting to continue and develop your relationship with that by having others around, like you were saying, you know, that you get more of that one because you have the others and you get the benefits of all of the other beings that you're bringing in. And it seems like so much more than we realized. That's the way it works when we let them be in charge too.

Because I remember, Samael came in and then we did the power of story, and then he was saying a new guide is coming. And he's like, I'm not going anywhere. It's just this is, you know, because it was like, wait, wait, don't go. I don't want you . to,

leave and. he was saying, the same thing for Keith and I of, new guides were coming in and I'm like, oh, but I don't want Michael to go anywhere. but they're bringing in additional teachers and guides that have specific skill sets and that, are good for being able to [00:59:00] help us in these certain areas.

And I hadn't thought about it until now, but it sounds like that could also be opening up different aspects of the main one, you know, of Sam and of Michael that we were working with before. You know, Michael brought in Gabriel to work with me and he was like, I'm not going anywhere. Gabriel has stuff to add too, that by Gabriel being here might also open up more aspects of Michael.

And by Azriel being a part of the story and the mix with you, that, that it frees up Samael for some additional things for him to bring through. So I think it's really, really amazing the shift in the way of looking at, at all of this. 

TAVA TAVA: Right. And even names, you know, like. Yeah. Well the first thing I, you said that made me think of something is the Morgan is Shapeshifter.

Do you actually let her shapeshift in [01:00:00] your practice? You know, like, I know, I don't, I kind of think of her as one way. I need to let her do what she does. But when we were talking a couple of podcasts ago about the link between the Azzazle in Samael, right? Sam to me is Samael, that's what he is. But it was interesting.

We found that link and we found those stories. And while I was vending this weekend, um, it's really funny. I feel like I should hang a little sign outside sometimes that's like, I'm here because there's a group of people that tends to find me every couple of markets, and we kind of touch base like different, witches is different.

Drew, it's different teachers, different, some people who can hear Samael, uh, who work with Lilith. There's like this whole little group that we kind of see each other and go, hi, you know, and it was, it was really interesting because one of them walked into my [01:01:00] tent and I hadn't seen him in a year, and he walked in and he said, where have you been?

And I was like, oh boy, you know, like, where haven't I been? And, Samael told me to greet him, not to say Samael. And so I looked up and I said, the Azzazle says hello. And he stopped for a second. Looked, and he goes, I've been waiting for that. And we ended up having this whole conversation. And it was, really neat, and then he started ch that had been going on with him and it was very much an alignment.

And so. Samael to me is always Samael Mayel. That's the first name I know him by. That's that's the name that, but there is this other name that he's been called in places that leads to other stories, that leads to experiences he's had with other people. And now that he showed me that connection, it helped me [01:02:00] to build conversational connection with someone who'd been kind of floating near me.

We hadn't really connected, connected until gotten that name, and now we're like off and running on a whole new conversation. So it's, it's just really neat, you know? And it makes you go, okay, if Samsel's Divine and has more than one, we have walked this world perhaps many, many, many times and we've walked others, what are our other names?

What else do we want to be called? How else will we manifest? Because we also are not stagnant. 

Jennifer Taylor (2): Yeah. And you know, when I think about it, it's like when Samael was saying, you know, like I was having flashbacks to other lifetimes and I was kind of stepping into and jumping around in lifetimes and things that I've experienced and resourcing and [01:03:00] accessing those in my work now to where it was, you know, remembering certain tools and remembering certain, techniques and things in sessions that, yeah, it's kind of like that it's opening up an another aspect of ourselves that we can access those other names.

You know, I was another name then. It was a completely different time and. Starting to get to see these other aspects of ourselves and other aspects of our gifts. You know, we were talking about it, bringing out additional, gifts in Samael or things that allows him to do when the grounding part is covered.

It's kind of the same thing as we learn to start accessing and resourcing and remembering more of ourselves. We're able to access additional gifts that we have and other things and expand. maybe the more balanced we become and [01:04:00]grounded, the more we can also do more of that resourcing of ourselves and learning more aspects of our own, divine being.

That's really awesome. 

TAVA TAVA: And be a little unmooring also, I mean, at times, because, you know, now I'm like, my Samael has a different name and he has pointed out that he has many different names and that we have had, you know, many different names. And when we're here and we're embodied, we get very much attached to this is who I am, this is my identity.

But we know that we are a particular unique manifestation of divine energy that changes and morphs and grows over time. That we're not just limited to that body. And there is a scary aspect to that of like, woo, I'm part of the all, but if I'm part of the all, who am I? [01:05:00] You are whoever you want to manifest yourself as.

When the Morgan appears, she can be young, attractive woman or an old Crone, she can be a raven or a wolf or a crow or an eel, or cow we can be. You know, the washer at the Ford, she can be the banshee. She has all of these options. She looks and changes and grows. She is at times three goddesses and at times one, but at her core, she's always the Morigan no matter what we call her.

And so we have that same, there is a core to you, a divine core, and then around you is all of this beautiful flow. And beyond that, the bigger flow of the warm wide sea and all of it [01:06:00] moves, all of it changes and, um, inching our way towards the acceptance of that is both comforting and a little disorienting all at once.

Speaker: Yeah. Well, I'm feeling like it's time to sing. I've done so for quite a while. Wow. Not realize how long this is probably three episodes again. 

Speaker 4: That's good. 

Speaker: Yeah. Which is wonderful. I feel like the longer we are in the discussion, the more the things start connecting and the deeper we can dive into everything.

Because I was thinking about it and I was like, I hope people aren't getting just so done with the fact that there are so many multiple part episodes. But I thought that's really where we get the deepest into the things. the longer we're sitting in this energy, the deeper we can dive into it and the more things start opening and we just get further and further into it because we have the time.

It's like [01:07:00] mining. It's like we have the time to continue. It's like each time we're kind of starting a new little. Cave. But when we can keep on that route, we are able to really go deeper and deeper into the, the mountain of it. 

Speaker 2: I think I've changed my mind. We need to title this episode. This episode is not about black mirrors.

This before this song, we were like, we'll come right back and talk about that. Two and a half hours later. Never got to it. No 

Speaker: discussion about whatsoever. You know how on, 

Speaker 2: you know how on friends they titled it like the one about the blah blah blah. The one about this one is the one that is not about Yeah.

Speaker: Mirrors the one where they don't talk about black mirrors, 

Speaker 2: but everything else. 

Speaker: Yes. Oh my goodness. Mm-hmm. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So Should we intend this as an ending or is it another island in the stream?

Speaker 2: Islands in the stream? We, we are Who, [01:08:00] what we are. No one in between. 

Speaker 6: How can 

Speaker 2: we, how can we be wrong?

Oh my God. Who is that? Was it Kenny Rogers and, 

Speaker: yeah, I think it was Kenny Rogers. Who s with Kenny 

Speaker 2: Rogers. 

It was written by the Bee Gees and recorded by Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton. Very good. 

Speaker 3: All right. We did well maybe this 

Speaker 2: is the Islands in the stream episode as we float in a warm sea. 

Speaker: Yeah. We have like all sorts of mixed up metaphors now, but new, so stuff is the whole idea, right? 

Speaker 2: Yeah. We have so much warm sea that people are gonna need a bathroom break after the uh, podcast.

Oh 

Jennifer Taylor (2): indeed. What's funny, and it was the big leap when you were talking about how Samael was guiding me. It was like, this is the song of Salt and this is the song of Sand and this is the song of you know, all these little parts. And then all of a sudden [01:09:00] I jumped to waves and he was so surprised. He was like, whoa.

Like you know, I made this like leap. And then we were talking about how waves have, when you think about salt and sand and water mm-hmm. And all of these things mixed together and he was just like, alright. And through Back to the Ocean. It's interesting that it's the sea of things and waves was actually the song that came through that was sort of that breakthrough and stuff.

That's right. It of that I think is interesting 

Speaker 2: when you were in the water, I, not to take us down a whole nother path, but I have to tell you something weird, then we've, we've got to go sing. 

Speaker: I love weird, 

Jennifer Taylor: well, I know she just said not to take us down a whole nother path, but we absolutely went down a whole nother path. So rather than diving into that, like what are we over an hour into this episode, we are going to save that for a next episode. but I will put in a closing song to [01:10:00] help us to sort of bring things.

Back around and, balance and integrate everything for you. And then I will actually play next week the song that came next, um, because that also led us into a different story as well. So I hope that you have enjoyed this episode, and thank you for following along with us. I know sometimes it can be challenging because our minds start going in a million different directions as we start piecing together all of these different parts of the puzzle.

But we are really grateful to have you along this journey with us many, many blessings and enjoy the closing song. 

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